Did the operative kill Badger and the Heart of Gold whores?

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J6NGO1977

Friday, June 23, 2006 11:53 PM

The verse is very big . However You can't kill Badger :) The BDM replaced him with the Sanchez twins.

HIPPIEBROWNCOAT

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:26 PM

This is a good question. Let me work real hard and start rubbing my two brain cells together...

I agree with a previous poster (sorry i forget your name, only two brain cells here) who said the HoG whores would be an irrational target. They have no firepower, and it would be a poor choice for Mal and crew to hide there. As for Badger: As soon as the Operative looked into Mal and Badger's relationship and Badger's operation, he would see that Badger wouldn't ever stretch his neck for Mal's hide. (Though i would kind of like to see the Operative and Badger bounce off each other for a while. Maybe Badger could make the Operative mad.) I haven't seen the outtake with Fante and Mingo getting tortured, but i would think they could be targeted simply because they are Mal's most recent business contact. If the Operative were to track and interrogate every one of Mal's business contacts, we'd all still be watching the movie!

Zoe's line was, "Everyone who's sheltered us after a heist." The operative wasn't looking for everyone who had ever talked to Mal, just the ones with a reputation for taking him in.

As for Mr. Universe: I know everyone says that the Operative was angry at that point, but i still think he kept his head and killed Mr. Universe because he didn't want him to get on the cortex and warn Mal when he was so close to his target. But that's just my skewed little train of thought.

Oh, i am a tweaked one, yes i am...

FLAME

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 8:01 PM

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Originally posted by HippieBrowncoat:
As for Mr. Universe: I know everyone says that the Operative was angry at that point, but i still think he kept his head and killed Mr. Universe because he didn't want him to get on the cortex and warn Mal when he was so close to his target.

Maybe he killed Mr. Universe because his sin was Greed. That's one of the seven, and Mr. Universe did say "throw my my coin" or something like that, didn't he? The Operative didn't like sins...

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PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, June 28, 2006 7:34 AM

In the book it says he killed Mr Universe because he simply had too much access. No one short of Alliance should have had the sort of access he did. As he said, "I go everywhere."
The Operative should have arrested him or had one of the feds arrest him or some such, though. The other side of the coin is that Mal was in fact starting to get to him. He was even a little confused as to why he killed him the way he did; it was a rash choice. As I said it would have been better to arrest him for mucking around in places he didn't belong. You can even see it on his face. He gets this look like "Why did I do that? Oh well, it can be said to serve my purpose."
I'm still not convinced he killed Fanty and Mingo. He tapped them for information, yes. Why he felt torture was even needed to get them to talk about Mal and Co. is beyond me, but there you have it. But you never see them die, even in the novel, which has no cut scenes. I'm still pretty sure they lived.
The little weasels.

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IMPROBABILITYZERO

Monday, July 10, 2006 2:47 PM

I don't think all the past aquantances were killed. I have trouble believing that the Operative can spread his resources out so far out in such a small time to kill them all. Plus as the Operative his job is to keep things done discreetly. I think the ones we saw in the BDM were made an example of; to prove that he wasn't joking.

I can see Badger cropping up in the future if there will be further developments. From the amount of stuff I have read and seen, it seems that these 'weasel' type characters lasts alot longer than expected.

MSG

Monday, July 10, 2006 3:00 PM

I'd say no, because he was trying to get rid of those who had sheltered and assisted them and badger's never assisted them in his life and the heart of gold ladies got help from them and didn't really give them aid or shelter per se ...plus bit hard to track that one:)

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GWEK

Monday, July 10, 2006 3:26 PM

Badger is almost certainly alive, since he parted with the crew on bad terms (and long enough ago that basic research might unearth that fact).

Patience would almost certainly not be killed by the Operative because she's never been a friend to Mal and would never shelter him.

Regardless of what happens to M&F in earlier cuts, there's nothing in the FINAL version of the movie -- or the novelization -- to make them dead, so they're PROBABLY alive (but not happy with Mal, since they've gotten tortured because of Mal).

The Operative would probably consider Mingo and Fanty to be allies for the crew because they are their CURRENT employers (even if the run in different directions the last time we see them, they have an ongoing working relationship). If the Operative doesn't kill them once they give him the information he needs, this makes perfect sense. The Op is oh-so-very-polite-and-apologetic, so he's going to kill folks who are THREATS and to make a point, but will not kill excessively. Therefore, no need to kill M&F.

Based on that logic, the HoG whores are probably in trouble if the Operative knows about them (which he probably doesn't, or them might be low down on the list).

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BROWNCOATSANDINISTA

Thursday, July 13, 2006 6:05 PM

As for YoSafBridge, I get the feeling that she's as crazy and ok as ever. Knowing her, if the Operative did go after her, he'd find her walking down the aisle with some new poor dope, using some new just-as-untruthful-as-the-last-one name; and the Operative doesn't seem like the kind of guy to interrupt a wedding. And besides, she didn't try to shelter the BDHs, she tried to kill them. And then scam them.

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HOODORNAMENT

Thursday, July 13, 2006 8:49 PM

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Originally posted by BrowncoatSandinista:
As for YoSafBridge, I get the feeling that she's as crazy and ok as ever.

Don't you think her and the operative would make a great couple... couple of rugrats underfoot, his and her weaponry. could be magic.

STILLSHINY

Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:52 PM

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Originally posted by msg:
I'd say no, because he was trying to get rid of those who had sheltered and assisted them and badger's never assisted them in his life and the heart of gold ladies got help from them and didn't really give them aid or shelter per se ...plus bit hard to track that one:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

My thoughts exactaly. He was only concerned about giving Mal & crew no place to hide. I doubt he tracked down everyone they had had contact with. Though it's obvious he went after Fanty & Mingo cuz he prolly saw them in the video from the fight.

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