That ain't right

POSTED BY: Redlava
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 20:18
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AGATSU

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:23 PM

Yeah well, the BDM is a whole different issue - it's incredibly hard to make a movie based on a TV show and satisfy the fans and the uninitiated, and Joss did an unbelievable job with that. Which has been said a lot of times before, of course, but it is something that just couldn't have been done better, given the circumstances.
I felt like there had been something "missing" between the series and the BDM as well when I first watched the BDM (not having read the comic book back then), and I could say THAT should be changed, but that would mean that your "complaint" about the first hour being mostly there for the fans would be even more justified since Joss would have had to spend even more screen time on that. It's just the 3-4 seasons with lots of developments that we have been robbed of.
We got robbed, my fellow Browncoats. THAT, sadly, can't be changed.

@Wonder Womom: Hm, yeah well, okay. But still, all I'm saying is that it probably turned a lot of people off.

The Serenity Summer Campaign is on, baby - prepare to kick some serious pigu!
September 30th is Serenity 'Versary! Be there or be a purple-belted poop-head. (<- not the official slogan.)
I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

SIXSHOOTER

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:24 PM

I know, I work in a video store and every time I scan through a copy of Big Mamma's House 2, while a shelf full of Serenity just sits there, another little piece of my respect for humanity breaks off and dies.

MSG

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:26 PM

oooh you could always start moving the actual discs of Serenity in to movies you think are stupid's covers and then people ( who are generally lazy) might watch rather than return and we could convert the world!

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

AGATSU

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:28 PM

And he could lose his job, too!

The Serenity Summer Campaign is on, baby - prepare to kick some serious pigu!
September 30th is Serenity 'Versary! Be there or be a purple-belted poop-head. (<- not the official slogan.)
I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

RUGBUG

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
Universal advertised Serenity on the season premieres of both "Lost" and "The Simpsons", in the first adbreaks, which had an average of just over 20 million people between them, with is upwards of 8 figures in dollars of advertising costs.

In truth, the advertising WAS there - but it's very hard to advertising a sci-fi western comedy action human condition film compared to say, an Adam Sandler film. Or a film about cars. Or Snakes On A Plane.

They may have used some money, but the advertising was awful. I'm a huge Joss fan and when did I first hear about Serenity? This last January...after it was out of the theaters. That's BAD advertising if a fan (although at the time, NOT a fan of Firefly) doesn't even know there's a movie coming out.

SAMEERTIA

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:08 PM

Quote:
September 30th is Serenity 'Versary! Be there or be a purple-belted poop-head. (<- not the official slogan.)

CAN it be our official slogan?
I kinda like it.
I'm seeing t-shirts with the "Serenity Versery" at the top and below it a pic of Alliance troop soldier with a purple head....

right...not enough sleep
not enough coffee.
I'll remedy that and come back in again.

As for the rest, America is full of fast car buffs who just watch F&F for the cars. Plot, acting, character development mean nothing to the motorheads.

And American audiences are STUPID! And the NETWORKS encourage STUPID.

Anybody notice that when BBC America ran "Coupling" it became an instant hit with those who saw it. So the networks tried an American version that was SO dumbed down that the original audience continued to happily watch the BBC version? They assume we're stupid, and the majority of Americans seem to LIKE it that way. *shrug*

EMMARIGBY

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:43 PM

Hey! Another Coupling Fan! Nice to see some British programs being enjoyed over the pond, makes a change from vice versa!

I always used to think the BBC immune to the pressure to dumb down to sell advertising but some recent programmes... I so hate reality TV!

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AGATSU

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 3:48 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SameErtia:
Quote:
September 30th is Serenity 'Versary! Be there or be a purple-belted poop-head. (<- not the official slogan.)

CAN it be our official slogan?

I doubt it.

No one would get it, anyways. But I'm glad you like it.

But back on the subject, I think what you said would explain why Fox apparently tried to advertise Firefly as "Hookers and naked chicks in boxes in space!".

The Serenity Summer Campaign is on, baby - prepare to kick some serious pigu!
September 30th is Serenity 'Versary! Be there or be a purple-belted poop-head. (<- not the official slogan.)
I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

ONTHEDRIFT

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RugBug:
Quote:
Originally posted by WhoIsRiver:
Universal advertised Serenity on the season premieres of both "Lost" and "The Simpsons", in the first adbreaks, which had an average of just over 20 million people between them, with is upwards of 8 figures in dollars of advertising costs.

In truth, the advertising WAS there - but it's very hard to advertising a sci-fi western comedy action human condition film compared to say, an Adam Sandler film. Or a film about cars. Or Snakes On A Plane.

They may have used some money, but the advertising was awful. I'm a huge Joss fan and when did I first hear about Serenity? This last January...after it was out of the theaters. That's BAD advertising if a fan (although at the time, NOT a fan of Firefly) doesn't even know there's a movie coming out.

EXACTLY!

By the way WhoisRiver, that's twice. I realize it was on highly rated shows but I saw that piece of go se F&F advertised so MANY times I threw up a lot in my mouth.

Also, I see your point(s) about the settler clothing. It might be a hindrance in some aspects but I do agree with FutureMrsFillion in that it probably would have been just like that. To me it's one of those things that gave the show it's homey feel. Everything always felt familiar to me despite the fact that the setting is 500 years in the future, in space. The clothing was something that helped the show achieve that IMO.

At the moment I'm trying to figure out how to introduce Firefly to a friend who really dislikes Westerns. So I was thinking about anything that really gives it a strong western impression and did think of the clothing (plus horses-both of which I totally love but a non-western gal probably not so much). There are Western thematic elements throughout but I really wonder how many non-western-fans even notice them. And as I previously discussed, I'm not going down the it's a "Space-Western" road. I think all I'll tell her about is that "We are going to watch this show. You are going to like this show. Because you're smart. And it is the. best. show. ever." Wonder if that'll work with the general public too?

DONCOAT

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 6:09 PM

Quite a few of the episodes have little to no Western influence. Ariel, Out of Gas and Objects In Space are some examples, but OIS isn't a good intro to the series.

Of course, there's nary a nag in sight in the BDM. Closest we get to Western is the mining settlement on Haven.

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