This is going to piss some people on this site off...
POSTED BY: Khyron
UPDATED: Friday, June 30, 2006 06:19
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my problem is that the entire nature of the war is illegitimate. not because there were no WMDs, but because Saddam was put in power by our own CIA to begin with. as throughout history, revolutions and counter-revolutions have been orchestrated by interests with the gain of consildating power. we know that our government has plotted to attack us as a pretext for invasion before(operation northwoods), and in this case even released plans to invade Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran following a 'pearl harbor-like attack' (PNAC documents)3-5 yrs prior to 9/11 and the '03 invasion.
pro-war apologists will claim that the US had "moral and legal authority," to remove Saddam, but when the reality and nature of war in general is highly political, and frankly sinister and diabolical, then such arguements are irrelevent outside the theoretical bubble theyre propogated in
the war in Iraq is really a re-establishment of a pro western style government that is proven to be manipulate-able by the elite. the central banks, the royal families, and transnational corporations are plotting to destroy all global sovereignty.
this is what happened with Iraq: they tried with Saddam, but he became an independant megalomaniac, apart from the globalists, and they had to dethrone him. thats all thats happening! there is nothing benevolent about it. it makes me sick to see people giving these actions justification, when these same people who are shaping global politics are also actively seeking to enslave, dehumanize and regulate the worlds "subhuman" (in their minds) working classes
this elite shadow government loves to create chaos, because amidst the fear and instability, people clamor for security and safety, and this leaves them the oppertunity to swoop in, with this for-ordained plan for control. this has been the catalyst for these people to obtain the wealth and control up to present; to steal everything that once belonged to people rightfully, through the propogation of fear and war
the problem with us Americans, and the world over, is that unless we comprehend the magnitude of this conspiracy, people will foolishly be caught up in a Lie, a reality opposite of the truth, to your own peril. it seems the democrats have an agenda to promote the failure of the war, because the globalists dont intend to leave; and the republicans will keep pushing for Iraq and the war on terror because theyre using America as the engine to create this mechanism that will become a one world economy, one world fascist plutocracy police state.
the thing is, real issues cant be avoided, so since both parties are controlled, they cant be so obvious as to both support the (luciferian) grand agenda. so the issues must be taken and spun in the favor of the globalists, with the parties giving 2 sides to the same arguement.
for example, in this illegal immigration debate, shouldnt Mexicos economy and government be scrutinized for the situation theyve created? or the American elite for profiting from slave labor? but NO! instead our 2 primary parties give us the option of amnesty, a guest worker program, an ID card, or a wall. none of which resolve the problem, but deflect it onto we middle class Americans. only from the truth can you establish a solid foundation, but their is no intention to tell the public the truth. thats a case in point.
i dont know about Iran, but i am highly skeptical of everything that is happening, just remember that you cant listen to what the politicians tell you; they are selling you on something, telling you something which is a highly sanitized half truthful rhetorical arguement; but obvserve their actions. if youll notice, all signs are pointing to the deliberate creation of a "new world order"
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Canada isn't included because there are some of us coughMEcough who question whether or not it actually exist. Its a conspiracy...just like Iowa!
As for being too embarrased to travel. Poppycock! When I am over the pond, I simply point out the idiots in every other government in the world and say I will explain Bush when you explain (insert idiot here). Besides, I never had any problem because I am not loud and obnoxious. Those Americans that are loud, obnoxious, lacking in manners and etc, deserve to be embarrased. Because they are embarrasing.
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Canada isn't included because there are some of us coughMEcough who question whether or not it actually exist. Its a conspiracy...just like Iowa!
As for being too embarrased to travel. Poppycock! When I am over the pond, I simply point out the idiots in every other government in the world and say I will explain Bush when you explain (insert idiot here). Besides, I never had any problem because I am not loud and obnoxious. Those Americans that are loud, obnoxious, lacking in manners and etc, deserve to be embarrased. Because they are embarrasing.
Well said; i travel alot, especially to Europe, and i am always emabaressed by the way some Americans behave in foreign lands. it makes it hard for normal folk like myself. I've traveled to Amsterdam many times (hard to believe but true) and the only nationality the dutch seem to hate more than us are the Brits
"two world wars and one world cup, do da, do da"
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Canada isn't included because there are some of us coughMEcough who question whether or not it actually exist. Its a conspiracy...just like Iowa!
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Of course we exist, we're the nice ones on this continent.
If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting
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Quote:The US allows concurrent citizenship with other countries that also allow it. Many Jewish folks are both citizens of the US and Israel, for example.
Originally posted by christhecynic:
To become a US citizen you have to renounce other citizenship,
I know a guy who has 4 passports: American, Canadian, British, and Irish. He was born of Irish parents in Britain, immigrated to and grew up in Canada, and married an American.
Speaking of traveling, most people don't have a problem distinguishing between you and your government. They know their govts don't represent THEM, so it isn't a stretch to believe yours doesn't represent you. I traveled in Egypt just last year and had no problems with the mountains of Egyptians who hate Bush. We just Bush-bash together. :)
And yes, it helps if one is polite and not rude. I am much more embarrassed by fellow American travelers than I am our govt.
Can't Take My Gorram Sky
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Aren't Muslim extremists, a nuclear Iran, Communists, and Terrorists all bad?...The funny thing about it is that they all hate America because we are viewed as "Liberal"...What I mean is that they all hate Women's rights, Gay rights, The right to choose etc....That is how they see America...Then why is it always American "Liberals" defending them?..They would have you killed in a second....Thank god for American War-Hawks(lib or Conserv)..if you are gay, a woman, Jewish, Christian, even CANADIAN...THANK THE AMERICAN GOVENMENT FOR KEEPING YOU ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Khyron:
Well, as I said, it's "only" about 31% of Americans that think the US poses a great threat, which is definitely substantial but less than the 46% that think Iran poses a great danger. Most other countries have more people that think the US is a big threat compared to people that think Iran is a big threat.
Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.
How is that questioned asked?.." would you______"fill in country"_____fear the US or Iran?.. those who said the USA... are the ones I fear...If the question was "who is most apt to blow up this world, enslave your women, beat any god besides Allah, blow up every other country, blow yours up again, and then get 72 virgins for their trouble?" ....DON'T bother answering....minions? I'll take minions....praise be to Allah!!!
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