Male and Female Imponderables--Post-Resurrection

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PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 9, 2006 8:35 AM

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Originally posted by SameErtia:

while we may drool over Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp, it's the PERSON who we love, not what they look like!

What attracts me physically, (tall dark and handsome) and who I've dated, aren't the same thing. Manitou is pretty fit, getting that tummy y'all are talking about, but he could put on thirty pounds and I would still be attracted to him.

I think what really makes a difference is when my partner is happy with their own body. If they are don't like their body, or how they look, they tend to move with less confidence- and in the bedroom, confidence means ALOT.

I'm gonna agree here, 100%
It's always the person I'm really attracted to, which might be part of why I don't care what gender they are. Obviously I have the natural "swing" but in terms of attraction... Well actually I might just be talking rubbish because nothing is more beautiful to me than a naked woman. But still, I like the person more than the body. I guess that's my point.
In terms of what is attractive about a man; I like the way a man feels. Much as I love woman as well, they're harder to hold with all the boobage in the way. I can just press against a man, it's nice. And yes, I like a bit of softness; makes a good pillow. In terms of looks and attraction, I'm a face girl, and a bearing girl. Someone who bears themself well is very attractive. I like a man's arms, too. Something about the way they're shaped. And butts... oh definitely. That's another one with carry-over. Love all butts. I refer you to both Mal and Zoe. Whew, no one has a butt quite like Gina! As Wash says "Right where her legs meet her back"... That and above it, of course. She is gorgeous.
Sorry, got off the topic.
But really, is there that much of a difference in butts between the genders? I mean, women have wider hips for obvious reasons, but it's still the same muscle. And it's sexy. It says "I can move around effectively. I'm a functioning person. And I have strength for thrusting!" In the case of women it can also say "I can bear children well."

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PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 9, 2006 8:52 AM

So I got all caught up on the last thread, and I wanna know where to find this "support group" of men who appreciate, respect, and love women!
Preferably unattached men in my part of the 'verse...

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DESKTOPHIPPIE

Friday, June 9, 2006 9:06 AM

Me too on the but! I love a nice bum on a guy. Something to look at, something to nibble and something to grab on to all in one

As for the dominance thing ... it is weird because I'm very much a feminist and can't stand the whole macho alpha male I'll protect you little lady thing, but I'm still physically attracted to strong guys with good arms for cuddling. Again, can't stand the bodybuilder look, but someone with a bit of muscle is very, very nice. Like Nicholas Brendan, who I've adored since I first started watching Buffy all those years ago.

So the liking a strong feel to a guy confuses me a bit, but I don't analyse it much. It pushes my buttons, so I just go with the flow.

Do we like normal looking guys? I think part of the reason I like Nicky so much is because he does look normal. There's something about the pretty boy look that annoys me. You know, the unbelievably good looking fellas they seem to have on every TV show. It seems so fake. It's why I like Sean and Nathan too. They've very good looking, don't get me wrong, but it's not the manufactured looking good looks so many actors seem to have.

I have to hold my hand up and admit to being one of the women here who is not attracted to Jayne. Adam's cute n' all, but his character actually puts me off him completely. I've read all the posts from the Jayne lovers. I know all about him being sweet and sensitive on the inside and braiding women's hair and all that stuff. But no. Just no. He's crude, he's obnoxious and he doesn't have a whole pile going on between the ears. He would drive me absolutely demented. If I were on Serenity I'd avoid him like the plague! Which I guess means that I'd be hanging out with Simon a lot.

Desktop Hippie: at one with the 'verse

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 9, 2006 9:13 AM

I agree with you about Jayne. The actor is way more attractive than the character.
Dominance, I think I have discussed before; I like a trade-off. Sometimes I'm not in the mood to take charge or make decisions, and then I want whoever I'm with to do it (various situations apply here; get your minds out of the gutter!) But if someone is going to get snarky when I am in the mood to take charge, that's not cool. Sure, I would want someone to defend me if they were involved with me, and I would reciprocate. That kind of thing can't be a one-way street.

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AERIN

Friday, June 9, 2006 10:05 AM

I finally caught up! I should have gone to bed hours ago...

PR: I dunno, I guess maybe it's bizarre, but I like Jayne. I prefer Jayne over Adam Baldwin, but I don't really know the actor (see, personality is important). I like Jayne's tough, gruff exterior and softy inside. He may be crude, which I find more amusing that bad, but he's also straightforward and much less conflicted than Mal or Simon. You wouldn't see Jayne sending a gal mixed signals. I suppose it's not surprising that I also really dig Wolverine.

Tristan: Personally, I final wide shoulders and a broad back very attractive - especially when a guy wears an old comfy t-shirst that allows you to actually see the definition in his back muscles! And forams are good. I woud have said I don't get the whole butt thing, but every now and then there's a scene in a movie that about makes me drool (Wolverine in those leather pants). Usually it involves jeans and cowboy boots (aside: do cowboy boots do for men's butts what high-heels do for women?). There is something really attractive about a guy being bigger and more solid than I am. Don't worry about a little beer gut! I think the "bigger and more solid" part is actually in the chest, shoulders, and arms.

Copilot: I hope things are are getting better.

NV: I wish you well, but I suspect there are some lady browncoats on this site that are secretly hoping Ms. Incredible doesn't work out so they can have a shot!

NUCLEARDAY

Friday, June 9, 2006 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
As for the dominance thing ... it is weird because I'm very much a feminist and can't stand the whole macho alpha male I'll protect you little lady thing, but I'm still physically attracted to strong guys with good arms for cuddling.

So the liking a strong feel to a guy confuses me a bit, but I don't analyse it much. It pushes my buttons, so I just go with the flow.

Just some stray thoughts here re: dominance in relationships. I think there's a difference between being a strong, capable person and being someone who needs to exert (is that the word I'm looking for?) their strength on others. ie, the strong silent type vs. say... Jayne :P Not sure where I'm going with that but perhaps I got the point across nonetheless.

I see that alot as a guy myself, actually. Some people just have that sort of overbearing personality, and it doesn't always have to do with physical strength. I've found people in general, though, are attracted to confident, healthy people. For obvious reasons, I'd imagine. And I've also found that someone who needs to "act" macho is usually just hiding some insecurities. A really confident person doesn't need to be constantly proving it.

Now, myself, I'm still a bit old-fashioned. I like opening doors for women, all that cliched stuff. Maybe that means I'm not a feminist, but I haven't met too many ladies who don't get a little bit of a kick out of it. I don't lay it on thick, or anything, or make a big production. (And it only goes so far. I can be easily persuaded to let a date pay for a meal. :)It's just the way I was raised, I guess. (And likely too many movies as a kid.)

I could be wrong, though. Anyone out there actually get offended if a guy tries to be a little chivalrous?

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PHOENIXROSE

Friday, June 9, 2006 12:07 PM

It would either be "Impose their strength on others" or "Exert their strength over others" or possibly "Inflict their strength on others." Any of those would work, I suppose. And yeah, I get what you're saying.
I never got offended if a guy opened a door for me, but sometimes I would totally miss it; like, he'd start to open the door and I'd grab it and open it the rest of the way and let him go first. I only got offended when my ex got mad at me for doing that. Usually I wouldn't mind going first. I do like a little pampering, too; just see no reason not to reciprocate. Assuming I have any idea how to pamper the guy, of course. Sometimes it would just involve buying a video game or getting him some juice. Whatever works.

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TRISTAN

Friday, June 9, 2006 12:47 PM

Morning, all!

NVGhostrider, he sounds like a cool kid. I have seen the photo of Stillwater Mountains...wish I was going with you! Have a great time!

I will be back after coffee to respond to the rest of the shiny posts!

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DEEPGIRL187

Friday, June 9, 2006 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Aerin:
I finally caught up! I should have gone to bed hours ago...

PR: I dunno, I guess maybe it's bizarre, but I like Jayne. I prefer Jayne over Adam Baldwin, but I don't really know the actor (see, personality is important). I like Jayne's tough, gruff exterior and softy inside. He may be crude, which I find more amusing that bad, but he's also straightforward and much less conflicted than Mal or Simon. You wouldn't see Jayne sending a gal mixed signals. I suppose it's not surprising that I also really dig Wolverine.

I agree with you on Jayne. I'll add though that I think there's more to Jayne's character than most people think. There are a few episodes where you get the idea that maybe Jayne only lets the crew see a certain part of himself. It's what makes his character attractive, I think. As for Wolverine, however, I don't know. If you're familiar with some of the comics, you might see some of the extremely deep-seated problems this guy has. I don't think he's as straight-forward as the movies might have you believe.

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MAL4PREZ

Friday, June 9, 2006 1:02 PM

The male form is definitely beautiful!! And thanks for the descriptions Seryn, always fun to drool in my coffee first thing in the morning...

I'm with the personality thing. I didn't get the hots for Nathan until I started hanging out on this site and got all the reports on what a great guy he is. (Well, and I heard he's 6'3". That didn't hurt. )

As much as Brad Pitt is a hotty, I have NO attraction to him because I don't think I'd like him much.

A little squishy in the middle? Hey, I'm getting it too (although I'm fighting it!) But it's no big deal. The most important thing, as someone said, is the comfort with your body thing. Know what's beautiful about your body, and what isn't should be good for a laugh, not icky trauma. And posture/bearing is HUGELY important. There's nothing as sexy as confidence (not cockiness!)

I'm not such a fan of being held down/dominated. Actually, I prefer a tall strong man who will let me believe I'm pinning him down, so I can take my time exploring those nice pretty places. *sigh*

Ooops, more drool in the coffee.

Chivalry: I find it annoying if it's not efficient. If you're closer to the door, open it. If I am, I'll open it. Sometimes a man's effort to be chivalrous interrupts the flow of the conversation/walk/whatever, as he scurries about doing his duties. It doesn't work for me. Not at all. Kills the chemistry.

I do, however, love flowers. And sparkly things, usually of the $2 plastic ring variety.

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