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Thursday, June 8, 2006 5:41 PM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
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Originally posted by Flame:
Between ARIEL, which happened in December, and TRASH, which happened in APRIL, all we got was WAR STORIES. That's a four month span.



Oooh, where does it give the dates?? :D I never noticed them mentioning month names!



Probably based on this timeline http://www.mts.net/~arphaxad/firefly.html which while an interesting piece of work is mostly conjecture.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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Thursday, June 8, 2006 5:45 PM

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Originally posted by daveshayne:
Probably based on this timeline http://www.mts.net/~arphaxad/firefly.html which while an interesting piece of work is mostly conjecture.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de



Ah. Fanon vs canon, then.

Thank you. :)

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Thursday, June 8, 2006 6:47 PM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Oooh, where does it give the dates?? :D I never noticed them mentioning month names!



In OUR MRS REYNOLDS, when Mal walks into Inara's shuttle and she is on the cortex, she says their scheduled arrival on Beaumonde is October 24. Then later in TRASH, Mal tells Monty that Saffron was on Serenity "six months back." Which would put TRASH happening in April.




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Thursday, June 8, 2006 6:53 PM

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Originally posted by daveshayne:
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Probably based on this timeline http://www.mts.net/~arphaxad/firefly.html which while an interesting piece of work is mostly conjecture.



No, David, actually, I haven't seen that website. My observations are based on reading the shooting scripts and watching the episodes. There are several references to time (Simon's been on the ship 2 months in SAFE, Saffron was on the ship 6 months back in TRASH, etc.), which allow for some pretty good estimates. (Also, see my previous post about October 24.)




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Thursday, June 8, 2006 6:53 PM

Oh, good observation!

But how do you figure "Ariel" takes place in December?

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Thursday, June 8, 2006 7:08 PM

For what it's worth, I think some of the times stated in the show are a bit carelessly scripted.

In the pilot episode, Inara states she's been on the ship eight months. In "Bushwhacked" she says "In a few weeks, it will be a year." That implies that at least two months, more likely three have passed since "The Train Job" and Simon seems awfully awkward still for having been there that amount of time. It could work, theoretically, but it seems odd.

Of course, it contradicts the "Safe" two months thing, too.

And in the movie Mal proclaims Simon and River have been on the ship for eight months, which throws everything all over the place even more.




So... I take these things with a grain of salt. *g*

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Thursday, June 8, 2006 7:31 PM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Oh, good observation!

But how do you figure "Ariel" takes place in December?



Alright, here we go:

We know that they are going to arrive on Beaumonde on Oct. 24 (which, they actually get there a day or two late, because of Saffron). Mal even says as much to Inara. MAL; "We're back on course, should be on Beaumonde just a day or two late. Hope that's all right."

Inara mentions being on Beaumonde for two weeks, when she's talking to Mal in her shuttle (prior to finding out Saffron is a thief), though Mal's not sure.

So, we don't know what they did on Beaumonde, and that could be fodder for a comic book, but eventually they move on to Higgins Moon in JAYNESTOWN. Assuming they went straight to Higgins Moon from Beaumonde (which, yes, is an ASSUMPTION), they might have gotten there by mid to late November. (Two weeks on Beaumonde, and then travel time from Beaumonde - which is a border planet - to Higgins Moon which is a rim planet - reference: RPG).

I know it's neither here nor there, but JAYNE does mention turkey dinner while on Higgins Moon.

Then, from Higgins Moon they gotta take their merchandise to Bernoulli (wherever he is) - I think we can assume he's not on Higgins Moon.

Next, in OUT OF GAS it is said that they are going to Greenleaf, and that it will take almost a week to get there. Whether they get there or not, and what happens there, we don't know. Plus, they gotta drop the Shepherd at Bathgate Abbey. Again, more for the comics.

Finally, we reach ARIEL. Inara says she has to have an exam every year. They're only there a couple of days (it's referenced in the dialog). Yes, it's a guesstimate that they are here during December. Again, neither here nor there, but River references Christmas in the ARIEL episode.

Then they spend some time unloading the take from the ARIEL job, because when they get to WAR STORIES, they are going to Ezra to drop the last of the loot. MAL: "We're about 20,000 miles from our last drop, people."

Finally, in TRASH, we catch back up with a time reference (and not an assumption). MAL tells Monty: "It's true. Half-a-year back, out at the Triumph Settlement. Didn't call herself Bridgit then." So, knowing OMR happens in mid-October, TRASH is happening about mid-April.

I'm kinda rushed here, as I'm outta time, but hope this gives you something to think about!



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Thursday, June 8, 2006 7:36 PM

It certainly does give me something to think about! I especially like the subtle catches you got, the references to "turkey dinner" and "Christmas", especially since that second one is to full of meaning already that it's easily missed as a calendar indicator!


I wasn't trying to debunk your logic, truly. Just point out that even verbally stated canon time can contradict itself. :)

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Thursday, June 8, 2006 7:43 PM



Wow- just wow. I hadn't added it all up like that before.. great observations!

There is lots of time to play with and lots of in - between time to play with.

Now.. if we could just have the BDSequel.. we'd have even more time to play with!

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

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Thursday, June 8, 2006 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by Flame:
No, David, actually, I haven't seen that website.



My bad.

David

"Not completely as well as the series of Firefly..." - From a review of Serenity at amazon.de

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