Legalizing Pedophilia

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FREMDFIRMA

Monday, June 5, 2006 7:26 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
This is news in Holland. As a piece of background info back in 1996 a pedophile ring in neighbouring Belgium was discovered, one of the perps had kidnapped little girls and two he had hidden in his basement starved to death when he was briefly jailed. So as you can imagine it's sturred some controvacy there.

His name is Marc Dutroux, aka The Monster of Chaleroi, and controversy doesn't BEGIN to describe it.. there's just no words for the size and scale of what occured, look it up yourself, for I will not detail it here.

While the freaks don't directly have an organized political party here in the US, some of their (mostly financial) ties with the Libertarian Party make me leery of said party, and they also heavily donate to politicians via fronts like the euphamistically named "Free Speech Coalition" that helped get Patrick Naughton off the hook, or such and such "foundation" or "fund"... but dig deep enough and you find that money comes from the third party gateway systems they use to collect the ill-gotten gains from their content sites.

If you think the freaks don't have a voice and financial bloc in US politics, think again.

Till recently, we didn't have anything but Outrage in response, till we got Protect.org up and running, finally, and that took ten years longer than it should have.

One hopes that backlash against this idiocy is what the folks spouting this stuff are *really* hoping to accomplish, cause that's what it sounds like to me, a PR Stunt designed to cause backlash.

-Frem

MAMASAID

Tuesday, June 6, 2006 5:18 AM

I don't think this makes Holland look bad. When NAMBLA-Pedapholiles Inc. formed, there was quite a controversy.

PIRATEJENNY

Tuesday, June 6, 2006 5:43 AM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
This isn't a real news story. It's just another smear to make "liberal" Europeans look disgusting. The Dutch won't stand for this party, any more than Americans would stand for NAMBLA:

http://216.220.97.17/

I've heard of NAMBLA, they are disgusting , what I don't understand about that group is why are they allowed to hold conventions and things like that when they are out promoting illegal acts, everyone in that organization should be arrested for promoting illegal activities, its beyond sick.

PIRATEJENNY

Tuesday, June 6, 2006 5:47 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Quote:
Originally posted by Fletch2:
This is news in Holland. As a piece of background info back in 1996 a pedophile ring in neighbouring Belgium was discovered, one of the perps had kidnapped little girls and two he had hidden in his basement starved to death when he was briefly jailed. So as you can imagine it's sturred some controvacy there.

His name is Marc Dutroux, aka The Monster of Chaleroi, and controversy doesn't BEGIN to describe it.. there's just no words for the size and scale of what occured, look it up yourself, for I will not detail it here.

While the freaks don't directly have an organized political party here in the US, some of their (mostly financial) ties with the Libertarian Party make me leery of said party, and they also heavily donate to politicians via fronts like the euphamistically named "Free Speech Coalition" that helped get Patrick Naughton off the hook, or such and such "foundation" or "fund"... but dig deep enough and you find that money comes from the third party gateway systems they use to collect the ill-gotten gains from their content sites.

If you think the freaks don't have a voice and financial bloc in US politics, think again.

Till recently, we didn't have anything but Outrage in response, till we got Protect.org up and running, finally, and that took ten years longer than it should have.

One hopes that backlash against this idiocy is what the folks spouting this stuff are *really* hoping to accomplish, cause that's what it sounds like to me, a PR Stunt designed to cause backlash.

-Frem

have you read the Franklin cover-up
there seems to be a culture of pedophiles in all branches of our government that goes all the way up to the highest office including the presidency, senators, congressmen, judges, News reporters and owners of media, Corporate heads and the list goes on an on..

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, June 6, 2006 9:32 PM

Oh i'm very well aware of it, Jen, probably in slightly more detail, actually, since this is an issue i've been pissed about since 1993, when a local kid (George Burdynski) went missing, and the FBI incompetently stumbled upon a fully-networked and entrenched set of freaks operating on AOL, with a nod and a wink from the service itself.

The FBI wasn't gonna do anything about it, but people who knew people started screaming to certain personal friends in the Justice Dept, which coerced the FBI to act, so they launched the innocent images program, and completely softballed the initial investigation - they identified 9000 perps, arrested only 12, released 9, and charged 3 with petty and minor offenses, resulting in a completely outraged and irate set of locals which asked certain folk, including yours truly, to make like somewhat miserable for the bastards.

It's been a long, long road since.

Even the most superficial investigation scares the everlivin crap of out folk - they don't believe it because they don't WANT to believe it, and to be honest a lot of the metaphsyical trappings used by these scum are just window dressing to make any testimony sound ridiculous to a judge or jury, a dodge that has worked well for many years.

Progress has been made, at least abuse within the catholic church is no longer met with the outright scorn and refusal to believe that it was back then, and when the political end of this finally blows, it's going to make that scandal look like a wet firecracker.

If you wanna know who's moved in on Franklins action, look no further than Abramoff, you'll note that the press is trying very, very hard to not expound on the fact that many of these so-called prostitutes he was providing, were not old enough to possess a drivers license.

There's little point, however, in discussing it with the general public as they don't believe it no matter what the evidence because it completely destroys their precious little plastic bubble reality, and that bubble is rather important to them - the few rare times I will discuss the matter in detail, are only with evidence in hand, and only to folks with the power, authority, and will to do something about it.

Our former state attorney general, and current state governor, Jennifer Granholm, is one of those folk, we have a good setup here, especially in the Wayne County PD, folks who know how to handle this business, but an investigation of the size and scope that would be required is beyond the resources of anyone but the Feds, who are involved too deeply to want to investigate it, and thus will move to stifle anyone who stands a chance of changing that status quo.

There's also social impact to consider as something like this could plunge our entire social structure into chaos, as it's not so very far from that right now thanks to misadministration.

Ain't no easy answers for this one, but if you're GOING to address this topic, don't just drop that whole package on folk, the automatic-denial response will file it under goofy conspiracy theory (as folks used to with the catholic church, for example..) and dismiss it without a second glance.

You explain in BRIEF, reasonable, up-front fashion, only what can be outright proven beyond all doubt, and show evidence - and let people make their own decision on whether to follow it up or not.. by putting the choice in their hands, you reduce the risk of them dismissing you, your arguments, and the entire issue out of hand.

In short, you're using an artillery piece for a pistols' job, kiddo.

-Frem

PIRATEJENNY

Wednesday, June 7, 2006 10:12 AM

are you in law enforcement??

I know many people don't want to believe the stories, but thats just it, there is alot of evidence and proof backing these stories up, one of the biggest problems is the fact that if most people don't see it on the T.V they don't believe it.

The evidence and proof is out there, but I hear what your saying, most people even when confronted with proof or evidence still don't want to hear it or see it., they like their bubble to much..I just wish people would understand in their reluctance to deal with it... is causing or letting it continue to happen, even for the most skeptical person out there. ther is still so much evidence that it should at the very least raise their suspisions, and curosity enough to want to have it directly addressed and resloved in some fashion.

FLETCH2

Wednesday, June 7, 2006 12:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Quote:
Originally posted by Fletch2:
This is news in Holland. As a piece of background info back in 1996 a pedophile ring in neighbouring Belgium was discovered, one of the perps had kidnapped little girls and two he had hidden in his basement starved to death when he was briefly jailed. So as you can imagine it's sturred some controvacy there.

His name is Marc Dutroux, aka The Monster of Chaleroi, and controversy doesn't BEGIN to describe it.. there's just no words for the size and scale of what occured, look it up yourself, for I will not detail it here.

-Frem

When the story broke I was living in southern Holland so I saw the "local reaction" first hand. The question was is this a real news story? If you live in that part of the world it is.

RHODRI

Wednesday, June 7, 2006 2:23 PM

The world is going mad!

Monsters like this use his Freedom of Speech to spout his disgusting ideas.
Anyone who oppose their opinions are highlighted as being anti-freedom fascists infringing their "human rights", and consequently these insane proposals are allowed.

Personally I think peadophiles should be shot...

Again...

And again...

And again...

Anyhow y'all get the picture, as i exercise my right to voice my opinion on these sick B#*%$#DS and their Vile practices.

SIMONWHO

Wednesday, June 7, 2006 11:26 PM

>> Anyone who oppose their opinions are highlighted as being anti-freedom fascists infringing their "human rights", and consequently these insane proposals are allowed.

Oh really? Care to point out anyone who has called anyone an "anti-freedom fascist"? Care to point out any of their insane proposals that have been allowed?

Didn't think so.

RHODRI

Thursday, June 8, 2006 2:29 PM

OK then, I was generalising but here goes.

Let's start with the British National Party! For years they've been spouting their racist ideals with impunity in the UK. As a political party they were entitled to voice their rhetoric until our Government recently passed legislation making it an offence to encourage racial hatred. They still exist as a valid political party but are now unable to publicly campaign on a racist agenda.

I've not been able to find the source, but I know of a law passed in France or the Benelux countries similar to that mentioned in the thread BECAUSE NOBODY VOTED AGAINST IT as it was a pre-posterous idea...Apathy kills people.

Human Rights...seems to me that we've screwed this one up big time!
For the vast majority of us in "Western civilisation" Human Rights issues appear to concentrate on the rights of Convicted felons! More and more we hear of the inmates' rights to this and that, but what of the rights of the victims and their families. Now I'm not saying we should abandon Human Rights, but I think we need to seriously consider its application.
Tell me Simon, that I am wrong to revile a local man who sexually abused 3 of his children, a man who pleaded guilty only because my wife and I were testifying against him. A man who served three 36 month sentences for his crimes because in the eyes of the law they were minors, and as such cannot be victims of rape! I am not allowed by law to identify this pervert to my community because it is in breach of his Human Rights!

I could go on but I'm foaming at the mouth with bitter bile.

If we're not careful then stupid laws do get passed.

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