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UPDATED: Saturday, June 3, 2006 09:14
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But PN, your descended from an illegal criminal Alien:
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You know, glass houses...stones...etc.
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"Of course Hayward is right about there being plenty of scum and knuckledraggers in blue states. that's because there are still plenty of Republicans living in blue states. Oh, and the Republican party, whose followers constitute the right wing in this nation, attack the Bill of Rights regularly and intensely. I belong to the ACLU so I do follow fights over civil liberties closely. With the exception of the 2nd Amendment (which is never attacked by the right wing) all attacks on the Bill Of Rights are launched by the right wing. Of course there are the occasional centrists from both parties who join in the attacks for political gain, but the attacks are always funded and carried out by right wingers. Sorry to give you a taste of reality, but the Republicans and their crazy ass supporters are always the bad guys on Constitutional matters, excepting the 2nd Amendment. If you're going to attempt to argue with grown ups, you might want to occasionally read a newspaper (and perhaps even a book) so you can avoid sounding completely ignorant in the future."
It's true, the Republicans are always the badguys (except sometimes) and they attack all our rights (except for protecting that one.)
It also never rains in the desert (except when it does) and it never snows in Arizona (except in certain parts.)
DallasFirefly, your argument is the kind of argument we hear from racists all the time. We need to get 'those people' segregated 'over there' and that way they won't cause us any more problems.
I wonder, though, what you will do once you've gotten all 'those people' out? Perhaps the shiny 'Blue' states of the North aren't all as shiny as you'd like.
'Northern' states may include: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky, Virginia, and Missouri.
This is using a map of the Civil War, including all those states which held divided loyalty to the North. California isn't on there. Hmph.
Anywhoo, as you toss out any states on the wrong side of the line, maybe you find you've not thrown out enough of them. Maybe you don't like the way in Wisconsin think and feel.
So you'll draw up a new line, perhaps, to lose those knuckle draggers in Wisconsin. And maybe Iowa is next? Who knows?
The point is, Dallas, you can't paint an entire state with one brush. All human beings, despite geography and even political standing, cannot be painted with a single color. You can never seperate yourself entirely from the people you want to escape.
You can travel across an ocean to avoid religious persecution, only to burn witches in the New World.
Your discrimination is wrong, and that sort of thinking is dangerous. Not all Southerners are bad, not all Republicans are evil, and not all Democrats think like you do, thank God.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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As a Wisconsinite, I can tell you that it's the FIBs you really need to look out for. And the damn coasties.
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Missouri and Virginia definitely were NOT part of the union in the civil war. The reason General Lee decided not to fight for the North was because VA decided to suceed.
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Hey Mammasaid,
Virginia was actually listed as a state of 'divided loyalty.' Here's the exact quote:
"Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky, Virginia, Missouri, are border states (colored pink on the map) which have divided loyalties between North and South. Occasionally the loyalties vary greatly within the state, for example, people from northern Missouri consider themselves Northern, people from southern Missouri consider themselves Southern. Self-identification may be based on life style as well. Those living in urban areas of Maryland usually think of themselves as part of the BosWash, an amalgam of Northeast cities and suburbs."
On the same site, they have this to say regarding Virginia and other border states:
"The border states of the Civil War constitute a major definitional problem for the South. Missouri and Kentucky both formed rump secessionist governments that applied for admission to the Confederacy, and both remain partly or mostly Southern in culture to this day; across the Ohio and Mississippi, even portions of Illinois and Indiana south of Interstate 70 and especially Interstate 64 exhibit strong Southern cultural characteristics. West Virginia is a unique case, as it itself seceded from Virginia out of reluctance to join the Confederacy and retains an almost prickly sense of independence; whether it is culturally part of the South depends both on what area of the state is under discussion (northern areas being more closely aligned with Pennsylvania and the Rust Belt) and on what distinction the viewer cares to draw between Appalachian and Southern culture. Maryland and Delaware, south of the main length of the Mason-Dixon Line, were slave states at the time of the Civil War, but did not secede; in ensuing decades, Southern influence waned considerably in Delaware and the urbanized portions of Maryland, but remains present in parts of rural Maryland, especially the state's Eastern Shore."
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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From AnthonyT:
It's true, the Republicans are always the badguys (except sometimes) and they attack all our rights (except for protecting that one.)
It also never rains in the desert (except when it does) and it never snows in Arizona (except in certain parts.)
DallasFirefly, your argument is the kind of argument we hear from racists all the time. We need to get 'those people' segregated 'over there' and that way they won't cause us any more problems.
I wonder, though, what you will do once you've gotten all 'those people' out? Perhaps the shiny 'Blue' states of the North aren't all as shiny as you'd like.
'Northern' states may include: Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Delaware, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky, Virginia, and Missouri.
This is using a map of the Civil War, including all those states which held divided loyalty to the North. California isn't on there. Hmph.
Anywhoo, as you toss out any states on the wrong side of the line, maybe you find you've not thrown out enough of them. Maybe you don't like the way in Wisconsin think and feel.
So you'll draw up a new line, perhaps, to lose those knuckle draggers in Wisconsin. And maybe Iowa is next? Who knows?
The point is, Dallas, you can't paint an entire state with one brush. All human beings, despite geography and even political standing, cannot be painted with a single color. You can never seperate yourself entirely from the people you want to escape.
You can travel across an ocean to avoid religious persecution, only to burn witches in the New World.
Your discrimination is wrong, and that sort of thinking is dangerous. Not all Southerners are bad, not all Republicans are evil, and not all Democrats think like you do, thank God.
--Anthony
AnthonyT, frankly I'm sick of you twisting my words and playing semantics. I'm also sick of outright lies about what I've written coming from your posts. I have made the point several times that there are good southerners, some good republicans (though that number shrinks yearly) so I'll go through your inaccurate, dishonest points one by one for the last time.
You post:
It's true, the Republicans are always the badguys (except sometimes) and they attack all our rights (except for protecting that one.)
My response:
I pointed out in my last post that Republicans defend the Second Amendment, so this post of your post is useless, and is a tactic used by people on political blogs to make it seem as if the person the blogger is attacking has said something he hasn't. I conceded that right wingers defend the Second Amendment, so what was your point in writing that? Trying to make it seem like I deny Republicans defend any of the Amendments, even though I clearly admit they defend the 2nd? Nice and scummy of you to do that. You might think about a career in politics given your talent for dishonesty.
You post:
It also never rains in the desert (except when it does) and it never snows in Arizona (except in certain parts.)
My response:
Too silly to say much about.
You post:
DallasFirefly, your argument is the kind of argument we hear from racists all the time. We need to get 'those people' segregated 'over there' and that way they won't cause us any more problems.
My response:
If you bothered to read my posts in full, or actually responded to what I write rather than what you insinuate I write, it would be clear that I made this suggestion that people VOLUNTARILY move to whichever part of a new US/Confederacy (for lack of a better term) they please, or stay where they already are. I also suggested open borders, free trade, and a mutual defense agreement between the new nations. Is that segregation? If you think so then I suggest you invest in a dictionary. The whole point of this suggestion is that people would finally be free to live in a country truly to their political liking. Right wingers w
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Whether the culture of a state is southern is entirely up for debate, but the state assemblies of both Missouri and Virginia (Richmond was to be the Capital of the Confederacy) voted to join the Confederacy over the Union. West Va. and Kentucky, while still slave holding states, to be sure, were bonafide border states, but not the two former states.
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I'm glad the south got OWNED during the civil war. All southerners should be sodomized.
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So...
You enjoy a bloated, federal monstrosity of a government which devours 30%+ of your income at the check, another chunk with every purchase, another chunk on your phone bill and get this, to finance the Spanish-American War started in 1898... gee i thought we won that one, so much for it being a 'temporary' tax - and another at the gas pump, and again when you buy a sixpack, and again when you buy some smokes...
And then uses that money to spy on you and pay perverto goons to feel up your girlfriend at the airport, gee, warm fuzzies.
Do me, and especially yourself, a favor - go READ something about history.. the civil war was primarily about economics, and whether the states and their people were sovereign, *as intended by the US Constitution* or whether the FedGov was.
Lincoln didn't free the slaves, he made us all slaves... tell me kiddo, tally it up, please.
How much of YOUR money do you actually get to keep?
How much goes to feed the beast ?
And what do you think would *happen* to you, if you refused to pay up, 'voluntary' or not ?
What lost the civil war was mostly industry and population, the north not only had industry, but was also willing to conscript every person standing and bury the confederacy (ironically, mostly volunteers originally) in bodies, uncaring of which side because they'd just conscript some more (Lincoln had New York City *shelled by artillery* in response to riots related to this) cause the rich old bastards on Capitol Hill, setting the precedent they embody now, weren't going to risk *their* necks or sons on the front line.
By the time it was over there was almost no one left ALIVE in the south able to continue the fight, so you had a buncha folks fighting at first for their beliefs, and at the end, for their very lives (cause it got ugly at the end, believe it) and failing in the face of a more industrial, more populated opponent willing to pay any cost that did not significantly impact them.
Would things have been better if it went the other way ? who knows, maybe a little, but over time prolly not any better, given human nature and the apathy of bearing evils that can be borne, rather than striking out against them...
Next time you go pulling the trigger on that mouth, how bout making sure your brains are loaded.
-Frem
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