SciFi Channel version of Dune

POSTED BY: est120
UPDATED: Sunday, June 11, 2006 20:32
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MIRAMEL

Monday, May 29, 2006 5:35 PM

i remember butterflies on her costume in the movie, but defanitly no butterfly scene in the book, and i remember no live butterflys anywhere.

EST120

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:11 PM

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Originally posted by LaughingMuse:
5(other). Here's another mispronounciation for you: Liet's daughter. If you compare the spelling to the other pronounciations (chaksoba, etc.), the name is supposed to be pronounced /chah-nee/. She was pronouncing it /chay-nee/. I kept waiting for her to say, "I am Chaney, daughter of Lon."

I forgot about that one, but yes, that was not how I thought it was pronounced either. I agree with you. I thought it was Chah-nee like cha-cha-cha, not like our current Vice President. Of course, unless Frank Herbert wrote a dictionary for all these words and names he made up, it is just individual interpretation anyway.

Glad to see that someone else agrees with me, though.

EST120

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by Miramel:
also they're pretty inconsistant w/ the pronunciation of the chakobsa, and i think the lady j. uses the same phrase to mean three pretty mutually exclusive things :P another one that ges my fedykin <(sp) i like hte pronunciation in the movie, but there are defanitly a cuple others floating around that are "mopre official". im torn.

one last thing i noticed, and really the only thing that majorly bugged me, was that they killed of thufer early on, instead of having that sub-plot w/ the baron and feyd. ah well
over all, i agree, excellent movie, and as movies-of-books go these days, pretty damn good.

Lady J. I remember her from GI Joe.

Just teasing.

I agree, I never really thought about the pronunciation of Fedykin when I was reading the book but is pretty cool in the movie.

I also agree about Thurfir, but I guess there just was not enough time to fit that subplot in. One other thing about him and Gurney. At the beginning of the movie, when you first meet them when Paul is getting ready to travel to Arrakis for the first time, I do not remember ever hearing their names! In fact, I cannot remember ever hearing Thurfir being called by name at any point during the movie! He ends up being such a minor character in the film.

MIRAMEL

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:31 PM

yeah, that bugged me too :P i think they do make a passing refrence to "hawatt", but you wouldn't neccesarily know its him.

EST120

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:39 PM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
Yeah, well not everything remains the same. One of the biggest changes from book to miniseries was what was absent in that scene: "If you walk without rhythm than you won't attract the worm."

I forgot about that, but you are definitely right.

I know, not everything can be incorporated into a movie version of a book. I guess that is why so many people do not like movie adaptations or do not consider the movie adaptation to be the same thing as the book. Still, as far as movie versions go, this one was pretty good. Not like some that I have seen in the past for other books that were just plain baaaaaad.

CHRISTHECYNIC

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:57 AM

Sometimes the adaptation is so liberal that I wonder why it is an adaptation at all.

If you have seen the Bourne Identity or Starship Troopers you know that those things are related to the books they are named after only by the names of some of the characters (and the former takes that extra far by only having it be the first name of one and the alias of Another) and one or two very general events.

I think people would have liked those much more if they didn't pretend to be related to the book.

This one on the other hand does a very good job in most places, I think that's good enough because there's no way it could have done it in all places.

CALHOUN

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 2:45 AM

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est120 wrote:
Monday, May 29, 2006 05:06

I also thought some of the words had different pronunciations. I am not a linguist, so I bet my pronunciations were incorrect anyway. I thought it was Bene Gesserit with a hard G like "go" or "get" not a soft G like "gel".

A friend of mine who got me into sci fi more than 20 years ago has the humourous affliction of mispronouncing words he reads in books. Anyways he loaned me his copy of Dune (the book), after I had finished he and I talked about it and he kept on referring to the Bene Gesserit but pronouncing the words Bean Gessert..as if it were some sort of after dinner vegetable sorbet.

He has had lots of other clangers over the years but that one sticks with me always..

THIEFJEHAT

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:37 PM

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Originally posted by LaughingMuse:

1. I don't think you're remembering wrong. Count and Lady Fenring were kind of the emperor's spymasters - and I think that yes, it was Lady Fenring that was watching Feyd's 100th kill and "celebrated" with him afterward. (I seem to remember a comment about her having to conceal her disgust about the whole slave-ring spectacle, so that she could get to Feyd.) I think she was seeking specific information about House Harkonnen's next move, or was trying to influence them in how to move against the Atreides.

I think that is half correct. She was indeed spying of House Harkonnen, but she was a Bene Geserit as well and had been ordered to mate with Feyd as a part of the breeding project. The orginal plan was for Jessica to bear a daughter who was to marry Feyd and bear the Kwitzach Haderich. When Jessica disobeyed and bore Paul the Bene Gesserit has to retool their plans. The genes in Feyd had to be preserved in a new generation so that the Bene Gesserit could manipulate Paul into mating with a pre-determined female so they could eventually achieve the Kwitzach Haderich at a later time. They, however, never forsaw that Paul was himself the Kwitzach Haderich and was going to remake the imperium with his Jihad. So at the time of Feyd's 100th kill Lady Fenring only knew that she had to mate with Feyd for the breeding project never suspecting that the endeavour was a complete waste.

But THAT is why she was there to "celebrate" with Feyd. And the count, as the enterprising spy that he is, used this event as an opportunity to gain intelligence. Although the count knew nothing about the breeding program itself.

Do not fear me. Ours is a peaceful race, and we must live in harmony.

DEEPGIRL187

Thursday, June 1, 2006 1:17 PM

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
"If you walk without rhythm than you won't attract the worm."

That's a direct quote from the book, right? I was just wondering, because that particular line is in the Fatboy Slim song "Weapon Of Choice".

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"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."

RYCE

Thursday, June 1, 2006 2:10 PM

I'm currently listening to the Dune audiobook (gorram long commutes), and am really liking it, though some of the pronunciations are a little different from what I expect. I absolutely love the SciFi version (especially the music!) and am also making my way through the books (currently about to start God Emperor of Dune).

I wonder if SciFi will make any more sequels after Children of Dune?

No power in the 'verse can stop me!

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