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Firefly Fanfiction: What Are Your Pet-Peeves?

POSTED BY: Xeyra
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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:25 AM

Wow...this is still a big monster.

Just a few things to add.

Critiquing etiquette.

(1)If you're going to comment on someone's fic, sign in or at least give your name at the end of your review.

(2)If you have a criticism, word it politely.

(3)For every criticism, you should also point out something that was well done.

(4)If you think its something you could do better, and say so, then put your money where your mouth is and do so. Then be prepared to take comments for and against in kind.

Continuing with other issues, I'm not a fan of certain pairings, which is fine. Others are and that's fine, too, but sorry, Simon/River pairing (incest in general) just squicks me.

That said, I guess I've been out of some of the fic loops. When Malver was first mentioned, I didn't think Mal/River but Mal/Reaver and was really disturbed. Yeah, I'm stupid that way, sometimes. (Bad brain! No cookie!)

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:47 AM

Easy...Characters being out of character.

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 6:07 AM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
But - I must explain in more detail - I'm with other folks in this thread that say any pairing can happen, if care is taken getting the characters from where they were on the series to this new partnering. Even Malver could happen, but if I open a story that has River just creeping into Mal's bunk and ripping his clothes off, I hit the back button. That seems unlikely to me. Mal views River as a daughter, and, down-deep, he's a very moral man, no way he'd just do her. And River is inexperienced - I'd even call her innocent as regards sex and stuff. Not a seductress.

See, this is exactly why I like good Mal/River fics. It's all about the journey...it's how they get there that facinates me.
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Anyway, if someone will point me to a Mal/River fic that is actually believable, that takes care developing their relationship past the father/daughter thing before they hook up, I'll try it gladly! I've just never encountered one.

I haven't read "You Can't Go Home Again" or its sequel yet (though I intend to as soon as I catch up on Easy Tix!), but I can whole-heartedly second Xerya's hereswith recommendation. (BTW, if the fanfiction.net links aren't working for anyone, just manually add the slash at the end.)

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:11 AM

My favorite Mal/River fic is IrishCowgirl's "Serenity Now". It got me a little hooked on the pairing. I myself wrote a kinda sorta Mal/River drabble, but it's mostly Mal's stream of conciousness. He's attracted to River, he's still attracted to Inara, and it's kinda... messing with him. People see it different ways, though, which I guess is good.
Can't come up with ay others off the top of my head.

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by RMMC:
Wow...this is still a big monster.
That said, I guess I've been out of some of the fic loops. When Malver was first mentioned, I didn't think Mal/River but Mal/Reaver and was really disturbed. Yeah, I'm stupid that way, sometimes. (Bad brain! No cookie!)


Hey, don't think that. LOL. I don't like the term Malver myself. I just use River/Mal or Mal/River in my head. I don't think there's actually a good name for this pairing. It's certainly not an "official" name (like Jaylee or Rayne), I think, so you're really not out of the loop.

But you've now put a very disturbing image in my head. Mal/Reaver?

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Wash: This landing is gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: [deadpan] Oh God, oh God, we're all going to die?

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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:16 PM


Thanks for the recs Xeyra and Nosadseven and PhoenixRose! I will read them when I get the chance, and see if I can be comnverted to a Mal/River fan...

I guess the Malver term is a little silly. But there really aren't other options. rivmal? stupid!


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Originally posted by Xeyra:
Hey, Mal4prez, what Mal/Jayne stories are you talking about? Me very curious.



I got both of these off the 2005 Strawberry Award nominees, btw...

Vandonovan's Took the Sky is sad but kind of sweet. It's a longish series, starts at http://vandonovan.livejournal.com/607341.html

The second one I must strongly caution about - it's very dark, it's very disturbing, and it depressed the hell out of me after I read it. Because it's the worst version of both characters and it's heartbreaking, but frighteningly believeable (to me anyway). I wish the writer would continue it and make it right! Janissa11's Tussle:
http://janissa11.livejournal.com/141374.html


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Tuesday, May 30, 2006 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by Xeyra:
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Originally posted by RMMC:
Wow...this is still a big monster.
That said, I guess I've been out of some of the fic loops. When Malver was first mentioned, I didn't think Mal/River but Mal/Reaver and was really disturbed. Yeah, I'm stupid that way, sometimes. (Bad brain! No cookie!)


Hey, don't think that. LOL. I don't like the term Malver myself. I just use River/Mal or Mal/River in my head. I don't think there's actually a good name for this pairing. It's certainly not an "official" name (like Jaylee or Rayne), I think, so you're really not out of the loop.



Thanks, I've run through several sites (other than FFF.net) to read fic and hadn't seen that derivitative until this thread, at least I didn't think I had. Which then made me wonder if old age had hit and I was the last one to know.

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But you've now put a very disturbing image in my head. Mal/Reaver?



Sorry. It made my brain recoil so much it almost became a singularity.

It would be a challange, wouldn't it? Not many things have meaningful relationships with their food.

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 6:52 AM

Ok, I don't write fan fic but I read plenty of it so here goes. I don't mind most pairings but the idea that Jayne might reproduce with anyone is disturbing to me... I hate it when somebody starts a story and doesn't finish it, if you have a long story write the entire thing and post it one chapter a day (and I mean CHAPTER not paragraph. Don't get half way through a story and start writing something else; more than likely you wont finish either.

But my main peeve is this.
Simon Tam is not stupid, he is not weak, he would not panic in a dangerous situation. He is a Trauma Surgeon for Gods sake, he would have washed out the second day if he behaved the way he appears in most fan fiction. He walked into an Alliance facility and stold his sister risking both of their lives, I don't think Mal, Jayne, Badger or Zoe on a bad day (ok maybe Zoe) would scare him.

One last thing don't be so hard on the spelling and gramar. Quite a few of the authors here are not native English speakers/writers and English is a tricky language for non natives to learn. I know there is one writer that is a Norwegian school girl. I could not only not write a sentence let alone an entire story in Norwegian I don't think I could identify a single word. Give people a break its supposed to be fun.

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Saturday, June 10, 2006 6:45 PM

Amen, Annabelle!!!!!

So many writers have Simon completely out of character that it's painful to watch. Simon doesn't stammer when he talks to Mal, or to Zoe. He looks them in the eye, even when it's something he doesn't want to say or hear.

My other peeve is turning Jayne into some kind of stumbling moron.

Jayne is not a moron. He's not to bright about some things- didn't have much upbringing, and probably not much schooling, either.
But in an emergency- it's Jayne sealing off everything below decks when there's a fire. It's Jayne checking to make sure everyone's strapped in when they crash.

He's not cultured, or dainty, but he's no graceful idiot, either. Watch the way he moves when the storm Niska's complex. That is grace, folks.

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Monday, June 12, 2006 1:41 PM

Going to slope in with a writer peeve here.

I wish people would take the time to think out a complete arc before they start posting. There are a few lovely ideas out there, but they seem to be bunged out hastily as possible. Take the time to craft something, please.

SameErtia wrote:

My other peeve is turning Jayne into some kind of stumbling moron.

Quite. Grown man in a dangerous line of work. Stupid would get you a bad case of dead.



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