June 23rd question

POSTED BY: ekidd79
UPDATED: Monday, June 26, 2006 01:33
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EKIDD79

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 12:56 AM

does it really matter where you buy your copy of serenity from? or will people buying from the same suppliers make a difference?

RMMC

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:32 AM

Where you buy it doesn't make a difference, unless you want a bit of the sale to be donated to help Haken keep this site going, then click on the link on the home page. But for overall number purposes, no it doesn't matter if you order from Amazon.whatever, discount.whatever or walk into your local dvd selling-type store...it ALL counts.

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RMMC

KANEMAN

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:37 AM

I may be wrong on this...If it is bought from a major retailer the figures come faster and more accurately. Another benefit of buying from someone like amazon is they keep a top 25 list that is widely read.

BREXAN

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:45 AM

Surely co-ordinated purchases from bigger retailers would definately work better, like the amazon.com link?

Think about it, if 10,000 people by a copy from 100 different stores, the figures won't be as amazing as 10,000 purchases as 2-3 bigger ones.

Would also be a good idea to make sure the amazon.com top 25 list, which hopefully the series will be high on *fingers crossed* (or from other online sites) are actually sent to Fox/Uiversal/whatever. Need to make sure they actually see the message we're sending, and amazon/etc themselves may not necissarily report unusually high sales to Fox/Universal/whoever we're targetting.

-Brexan
"Also, I can kill you with my brain"

ADAPA

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:29 AM

I want to buy a copy of the series for a gift but am lothe to give $ to fox...I assume I should just do it anyway.

RIVER6213

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:54 AM

Not really wanting to be the one to throw a wet towel into this whole affair, but I think that this whole June 23rd thing is a big waste of money and time. All you will end up doing is making some stores a little bit richer. Another movie or TV show cannot come from this.

I've watched all of the available Joss interviews and this is what I've notice. Every time, and I mean EVERYTIME serenity 2 or Firefly is mentioned, Joss gives a slight flinch. A flinch that suggests that this is something that he really doesn’t want to talk about. A flinch that says he's guilty of something. A flinch that suggests that this is something he won't get off his back ever.

I am SO glad I'm not him. The guy clearly wants to write and direct, he didn’t realize that he would end up creating cult classics like Firefly and Buffy so early in his career, and now these very shows are coming back to bite him in the ass in the form of fans, harassing him at every turn. It is clear that this guy really wants to move on in his life. He actually looks and acts like he wished he never created FF. He only stands in front of those cameras, and goes to those interviews because WE want him too.

I think he has other ideas for movies and TV shows that he wants to move on too, but the Serenity/FF monkey will be on his back forever as long as he lives, and I think that he's starting to really see that now. It’s rare that young writers and directors get a super hit from the start. Giving us Serenity should have calmed us down so he thought, but it made it worse. We will always want more. We are fans, of course we want more. We want to suck the orange called firefly dry of all of its juices.

Go to any interview that Joss's done in the past year and really watch. The mention of FF or Serenity, he flinches and starts looking really nervous about something. He starts looking and acting put upon. The actors want to do Serenity and Firefly because I believe that they actually enjoy the show themselves, and it pays the bills on top of it, and they are popular with people like us, but Joss….poor Joss. Poor, poor Joss. I feel so sorry for the guy.

Better him than me I always say.

I know I'm right.

River

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:26 AM

RiveR6213...not a person, a force of nature.

De-lurking to stir stuff up.

BREXAN

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:28 AM

If there's one thing that watching the series/movie tells any fan, its that a single-minded belief is an extremely dangerous thing :)
Especially when those beliefs have the inevitable implication that others are wrong, and are wrong to think they way they do.

And to roughly quote Book, cradling his torn up bible, its not about facts, its about faith ;)

I don't know that I'm right, but I know that the fact that I don't is infinately more comforting to me than a forced belief that I am.

-Brexan
"Also, I can kill you with my brain"

RIVER6213

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:31 AM

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Originally posted by Brexan:
Quote:
I know I'm right.

River

If there's one thing that watching the series/movie tells any fan, its that a single-minded belief is an extremely dangerous thing.

And to roughly quote Book, cradling his torn up bible, its not about facts, its about faith ;)

-Brexan
"Also, I can kill you with my brain"

Point well taken. I just thought I would report my observations. I know I'm right, but then again, I have been wrong about certain events...from time to time. But I will still say this...poor Joss. He won't ever be able to live down Firefly and it will haunt him till the day he dies.

River

11THHOUR

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 3:48 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
I've watched all of the available Joss interviews and this is what I've notice. Every time, and I mean EVERYTIME serenity 2 or Firefly is mentioned, Joss gives a slight flinch. A flinch that suggests that this is something that he really doesn’t want to talk about. A flinch that says he's guilty of something. A flinch that suggests that this is something he won't get off his back ever.

Joss may flinch, but that could mean something different than your interpretation. Serenity and Firefly are a difficult subject for him because of the pain involved with all the loss and work surrounding a project he dearly loves.

Joss does want the 'Verse to go on, but he's prevented from doing so right now... so of course he feels bad. It's a frustrating, helpless feeling to want to continue and be prevented from doing so. Movies and TV series are expensive things, he has to have a studio to back him up. If he could do this on his own, he'd love to.

In a VERY recent interview with Joss, he still says he wants to continue Serenity. There are excerpts from this interview in a video on the SciFi channel website stating this. Here is a tanscript from the portion where Joss talks about Serenity:
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FROM THE VIDEO:

SciFi Wire Presents an Exclusive Interview with Joss Whedon on Serenity and Wonder Woman

(Scenes from Serenity are shown- end of bank heist and Reaver chase. Joss appears to be interviewed outside some event. Questions to Joss are not heard, but can be deduced by his responses.)

"Well, I don't know if we made the kind of money that entails sequels or any such thing... uh, I sit by my phone..."

"Um, I would certainly love to. We're gonna do another comic, but that doesn't let me work with the actors, which is what I really want to do."

"Um, I never rule it out... I always keep my hope alive. But the fact of the matter is, right now, it's doubtful."

http://www.scifi.com/pulse/
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Sure, in the last sentence he expresses some doubt about continuing... but he's talking about "right now". We are in a lull because the box office returns for Serenity weren't blockbuster numbers, so future plans got put on the back burner. However, Serenity made its money back and the DVDs continue to sell well. Sometimes things have to sit for a bit so people can regroup. Also, Joss was obligated to fulfill contractual work, and he needed to get working on scripts and other projects. Doesn't mean he left Serenity behind forever, just that he had to get working on other things. He always has tons of ideas and he loves to keep busy.

Anyway, the other parts of the interview are pretty clear, and he's used the term before, he's "sitting by his phone"... meaning he is still quite open to making more Serenity. But now it's a case of he needs to be the one approached. He fought very hard to get Serenity made. Now the next incarnation must be in the form of an offer to him. I'm thinkin' he's gonna let the fandom and DVD sales speak for themselves, one way or the other.

Joss also said that doing a Serenity comic is not the same thing as working with the actors... and I quote him, "... which is what I really want to do."

I don't know how much clearer he can be. He still really wants to create more Serenity with the original cast.

The people who made Serenity want to do more, and the fans want more. If we don't give up then there will be more from the 'Verse.

Keepin' the faith, and still holdin'

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