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No competition for Firefly except for SCIFI Prime

POSTED BY: Haken
UPDATED: Friday, August 16, 2002 19:31
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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:19 AM

Well, I just looked over the FALL schedule and Firefly doesn't seem to have any competition from the other networks.

This is what the others are offering during the same timeslot:

ABC: America's Funniest Home Videos
CBS: 48 Hours
NBC: Providence
UPN: Some Movie
WB: What I Like About You/Sabrina, the Teenage Witch

The strongest competition will likely come from SciFi Network's SciFi Prime lineup, which consists of Dead Zone, Stargate SG-1, and Farscape. However, since SciFi broadcasts encore presentation of SG-1 and Fascape, it's really a non-issue.

Besides, there's always the good ole VCR.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:41 PM

I'm not sure about SG1 but Farscape goes into hiatus at the end of this month so it won't be competing with Firefly.

The only time they might overlap is in January when Sci-Fi plans to show 4 episodes of Farscape, and POSSIBLY in March when they sometimes show a few episodes.

This is a VERY good thing for this Farscape fan! *whew*

Anybody know what Sci-Fi is doing with SG1?

INT

One evil at a time, that's the best i can do - Farscape

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 8:46 PM

Well, so much for the "time slot of doom" theory.

Interesting note in a local TV reviewer's column. He was listing shows that seemed to have a lot going for them but (in his opinion) were probably in trouble even before the season started. Firefly was on the list because genre fans probably wouldn't watch anything without "phasers and aliens."

The answer to that is: so what? There are genre fans (like me) who are pretty bored with P&A stories. And there are a lot more people who don't watch SF shows mainly because of the P&A associations.

I'm basically a cynical, pessimistic person, especially when it comes to things TV. But I'm getting entrenched in the theory that Firefly is destined to be a resounding success. Too many things are going right. The one thing left that can strike a fatal blow: some network suit grabs control of the show and decrees that Firefly must be retooled as a cop show. (Not as absurd as it sounds. Lots of network people honestly think that any show could be improved by turning it into a copy show. I'm not exagerating!) Baring that contingency, we looking to have more fun than we've had in a long time.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:15 PM

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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
The one thing left that can strike a fatal blow: some network suit grabs control of the show and decrees that Firefly must be retooled as a cop show. (Not as absurd as it sounds. Lots of network people honestly think that any show could be improved by turning it into a copy show. I'm not exagerating!)


Network execs are scary mofos. BAYWATCH was a "cop show" when it first premiered on NBC. Lifeguards solving murder cases ... dear Lord.

--- Joe

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:16 PM

It looks like no competition at all.

The Dead Zone on SF is a repeat. When FF is over you switch to SG-1. When SG-1 is over you switch to the news.

Farscape has jumped the shark and is now just another fetish and sadism perversion show on SciFi.

SG-1 seems to be getting the SciFi F&S treatment as well.

All that is left for me on SciFi is the occassional movies and SG-1. So much for that.


Jeff Timm
Who gave up on Farscape last year, tried again this year, and realized they don't even make the effort to hire decent sound editors.

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 9:31 PM

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Originally posted by TinyTimm:

Farscape has jumped the shark and is now just another fetish and sadism perversion show on SciFi.

Well, I have to admit that Farscape isn't as interesting as it used to be. But I'm not sure they're any weirder than they used to be. (Remember the episode where everybody swapped bodies? Bet the transgendered crowd loved that one!) And you're going to have to explain what "jumped the shark" means!

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Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:39 PM

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And you're going to have to explain what "jumped the shark" means!


Refers to an infamous episode of Happy Days where Fonzie does an Evil Knievel type motorbike jump over a tank with a live shark in it. (yes really!)

So the phrase 'jump the shark' came to mean - the point at which a show in a desperate attempt to restore flagging ratings attempts some outlandish stunt or plotline. Bobby appearing from the shower in Dallas was a jump the shark moment.

Actually now people talk about 'jumping the shark' to simply mean the point at which a show is past it's best, definitively in decline. There doesn't seem to need to be the great defining moment of degradation and self-mockery.

There's even a website www.jumptheshark.com where you can vote for the point where your favourite shows 'jumped the shark'.



Shug

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Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:15 AM

Well, the Sci Fi Prime shows, as they are Cable programs rather than regular Network programs, can survive with smaller ratings because Cable appeals to a smaller, paying audience.

Farscape does quite nicely with a 1.2 rating; Star Trek Voyager at the peak of its popularity on UPN averaged between 4 and 5 if memory serves.
Firefly will need to do at least that well to justify its expense.

Farscape's third season had consistently its best writing, direction, and acting to date. Whilst I would agree that season four has yet to impress, one must remember it is riding on the heels of the incredible year three. I do not think the program has "jumped the shark" as yet.

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Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:50 AM

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Originally posted by Jorgasnarova:
Star Trek Voyager at the peak of its popularity on UPN averaged between 4 and 5 if memory serves. Firefly will need to do at least that well to justify its expense.


It'll have to do better than that. DA got yanked with that average. And FIREFLY is more expensive.

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Whilst I would agree that season four has yet to impress, one must remember it is riding on the heels of the incredible year three. I do not think the program has "jumped the shark" as yet.


The arc eps are what I live for, so I'm taking the "wait and see" approach, too. I was never too impressed with the majority of 'SCAPE's stand-alones in previous years, so this current stretch is nothing new. Impatience is creeping, though. We're 8 eps in and nothing's happened.

So far, I've enjoyed "Crichton Kicks," "Promises," "John Quixote" and "I Shrink." So they're 50/50.

--- Joe

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Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:53 PM

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Originally posted by TinyTimm:

Farscape has jumped the shark and is now just another fetish and sadism perversion show on SciFi.




Jumping the Shark has Jumped the Shark.

Farscape IS, WAS, and always WILL BE the best science fiction show on TV.

Long after all challengers have rotted away and their bones bleached to dust in the wasteland of TV Farscape will STILL be the greatest show on TV.

Now bring forth your reasons for stating Farscape is anything less then perfection. And i will explain why you are wrong!

And yes i am a drooling Farscape fanboy thanks for noticing!

INT

One evil at a time, that's the best i can do - Farscape

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