X-3 The Last Stand
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UPDATED: Sunday, April 5, 2026 17:34
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I agree with your points about the script weaknesses in the movie, and I have one to add. I have several issues with the movie, but here's the one that bothers me the most.
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In the final battle against Magneto, when everyone is huddling behind wreckage, and they see the "cure" hypos, they all instantly jump on the shoot-up Magneto plan. No one expresses any doubt, or misgivings, or moral dilemma about doing exactly what Magneto accuses all his enemies of wanting to do: destroy mutants.
Maybe Joss has spoiled me, but if the good guys are forced by desperate circumstances to do something evil, I want someone to acknowledge the fact that it is evil. I want someone to show remorse, guilt, something!
But nothing in this movie was really thought out. There's no character development, despite how hard some of the actors are trying to make silk purses out of a sow's ear of a script.
I'm not a big comics fan. Most of what I know about X-men comes from borrowing my brother's few issues when we were kids. But the thing that always drew me to this particular universe is how carefully thought out the allegory was. The themes of individuality, isolation, prejudice were all portrayed with purpose. And while there were good guys and bad guys those distinctions were fluid: the good guys didn't always agree, the bad guys have some valid reasons for their actions, and characters could change sides without sacrificing believability.
The screen writers and director of this movie seem to have spent no time considering the underlying meaning of the X-men mythology, and as a consequence, the characters in the movie have actions instead of motivation. They are reduced to two- dimensional caricatures, something, ironically enough, that the comics characters never were.
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I've seen X-Men TLS two nights in a row at midnight. I've enjoyed all of the X-Men movies but this is my favorite. I'm looking forward to Magneto and Wolverine spin offs. Oh yeah, Halle Berry still fills out a pair of pants nicely.
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Originally posted by DallasFirefly:
I've seen X-Men TLS two nights in a row at midnight. I've enjoyed all of the X-Men movies but this is my favorite. I'm looking forward to Magneto and Wolverine spin offs. Oh yeah, Halle Berry still fills out a pair of pants nicely.
I wanna be Mr. Baccarin!
I went to see it last night. I enjoyed it but it didn't live up to my expectations at all! Not half as good as number 2 in my opinion.
I agree with the plot flaws that other people have pinted out. It all just seemed a bit shallow and disjointed to me.
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The blank albinoish kid whose mutant ability was to supress powers. He seemed really underused. I mean we got the barest hint as to how he felt about how he was being used , plus we never found out what happened to him and he wasn't used at all to his fullest extent as a plot device.
I was impressed by the special effects but not so much by the characterisation. I was a fan of the cartoons and was excited to see Beast but he just wasn't intelligent and urbane as I want'ed him to be. That was the beauty of that character, that he looked so primative and spoke so very beautifully!
Plus I'll never forgive the film-makers for not including Gambit. I mean there's no excuse for depriving me of a gorgeous man with a sexy Cajun accent!
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Now i may be wrong Hippie, but didn't Jean\Phoenix end up controling her powers in teh comic and I'm almost postive she controlled them in teh cartoon ,that i was so fond of as a kid.
And as for my thoughts on the movie... It was a good movie ,not great, just didn't live up to my expectations, that i got after watching the first teaser(god i loved that beginning music with them walking outta the danger room, soooo bad ass).
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I wasn't a fan of Rogue getting the cure, it really bothered me. Mostly cause cause I don't know to many girls that would go to those lengths to be with a boy, after witnessing that boy show so much attention to another girl (Mostly cuz i've been in Icemans shoes, and got dumped faster then you can say "Boo" and I wasn't even caught like he was!). Plus Rogue is one of my favorite characters (mostly cause of the cartoon, she just hit me as the strongest character, almost as cool a Supes)
And the fact they had to show that the cure doesn't work for a long period of time (if at all). I know they had to do it so they could have the magento spin off and stuff (not gonna watch it btw, might get a rip, but not buy it). But that really weakens your feelings towards Rogue getting the cure, I mean if magento can be hit with such a big dose and have his powers, then why not rogue, with the smaller dose?
Eh but i'm just pulling at strings here.
All and All good movie, that just doesn't live up to my personal expectations. So go see it and deciede for yourself.
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NOSkillz, i do believe you are right about the cartoon; Jean did learn to control her powers but didn't she do it with Xavier's help? I dunno. Haven't seen the cartoon in years. As for the comic books, well, i never read them, so i can't say.
And i am SOOOO on board with loving animated Rogue. She was so bad-ass. Origionally i was dissapointed with the first movie, making Rogue into a vulnerable kid, but it ended up working out very well under Sanger's direction.
Also good point with the cure being temporary.
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Magneto getting stuck with four needles and then we get the hint he still has powers?
I am kind of apprehensive that just may be the director or studio (yay, Fox) throwing in whatever they please because i think everyone on this site can agree Fox and continuity don't mix. Or maybe it's totally accurate, and
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Rogue's powers will also return at some later, most inconvienient time. Poor Bobby.
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Taya, and everyone else, i apoligize. Spoiler screens are now in place. What hasn't been screened, i've seen in the previews.
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As for the comic books, well, i never read them, so i can't say.
I have a feeling people who are devoted to the comic book are going to have a hard time with this movie. Those who have had very little or no exposure to the comics will probably enjoy it as a great action flick.
First, Jean did come back from the brink in the comic with Scott's help if I remember correctly. If you ever get the chance pick the Dark Phoenix story arc, it is one the best written group of comic books ever.
In the movie I really enjoyed the display of power by both Magneto and Phoenix, two of my favorite baddies from the comics.
Now on to the things that are a bit annoying. The writers took a lot of liberties when dealing with major characters. I will try to use the spoiler tag so nobody freaks out.
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The deaths of Scott, Jean, and Xavier struck me as bad ideas. I could understand one but how do you kill three of the main characters that are the foundation for the X-men.
Magneto and Rogue having their powers taken away was another bad idea. I did like how we get the hint Magneto isn't powerless at the end.
Juggernaut would not have been affected by that kid who was able to suppress mutant powers. His powers are mystical not genetic in nature. It seems like they changed this just to get a cheap laugh.
At the end when Wolverine stops Phoenix it comes off as a little unbelievable. After seeing what she is capable of there is no way he would not have been obliterated. I know people will point out his super healing ability and the fact that part of her didn't really want kill him but come on. She didn't seem to have much trouble offing both the Professor and Scott so why should Logan get a pass. Whoops, I forgot, everyone loves Wolverine and they couldn't screw up the opportunity for a spinoff.
Now that my ranting is over I want to say that I did like the movie even though it contradicts the stories I grew up on. Hell, all three X-men movies had no trouble walking all over what is considered canon in the comic books but they are still entertaining and that is the important thing.
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I was dissapointed in XMen 3 everything was just to damn fast. Everything was easy it felt plain empty. But it seems that every movie I look forward to seeing this summer is going to dissapoint me. Maybe Joss just ruined things for me I don't know but it's fraking annoying.
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Well, I liked the movie but felt that they tried to do too much (and in too little time). Trying to cover both the Jean/Dark Phoenix and Mutant Cure storylines was silly, and they didn't work well together. I think the movie would have worked much better with just the Mutant Cure plotline. The story actually had to go out of its way to deal with the Jean storyline. Although they did handle much as the original comic storyline went.
Oh, and Singate, it sounds like you didn't stay past the credits. There's an extra little bit that would change some of your spoiler information.
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Oh, and Singate, it sounds like you didn't stay past the credits. There's an extra little bit that would change some of your spoiler information.
You are correct sir! I've never had much patience for waiting around through ten minutes of credits just to see some extra footage. For once I guess I missed something important. Oh well, just have to wait for the DVD unless someone is going to post what happened.
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