A well regulated Militia
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Friday, July 25, 2025 19:29
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Originally posted by Causal:
"The Constitution shall never be construed...to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
-Samuel Adams, 1786
So the Constitution prevents amputation?
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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Originally posted by citizen:
So the Constitution prevents amputation?
Exactly!
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Tennessee Constitution
Section 24. That the sure and certain defense of a free people, is a well regulated militia; and, as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to freedom, they ought to be avoided as far as the circumstances and safety of the community will admit; and that in all cases the military shall be kept in strict subordination to the civil authority.
Section 25. That no citizen of this State, except such as are employed in the army of the United States, or militia in actual service, shall be subjected to punishment under the martial or military law. That martial law, in the sense of the unrestricted power of military officers, or others, to dispose of the persons, liberties or property of the citizen, is inconsistent with the principles of free government, and is not confined to any department of the government of this State.
Section 26. That the citizens of this State have a right to keep and to bear arms for their common defense; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime.
Section 27. That no soldier shall, in time of peace, be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner; nor in time of war, but in a manner prescribed by law.
Section 28. That no citizen of this State shall be compelled to bear arms, provided he will pay an equivalent, to be ascertained by law.
Constitutional Law terrifies most judges, prosecutors and defense lawyers, apparently because it's so powerful in overruling Communist laws in USSA. I quoted the state and fed Constitutions in my defense brief to a traffic ticket for safe driving at 5mph, so the prosecutors dismissed their own case and paid all court costs. Read the successful defense arguments, plus a link to Deals Gap Militia at bottom of page:
www.dealsgapdragon.com
Democratic Militias know how to treat their elected representatives...
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"These militia covenants were voluntary associations, explicitly founded to defend a way of life. Most agreed to elect their officers by majority vote, and to be bound by 'equal laws' of their own making. Professional soldiers smiled indulgently at the sight of the New England militia on its training days. They laughed contemptuously at the awkward drill, hooted the clumsy marching, and howled with laughter at the bizarre Yankee custom of saluting an officer by discharging a blank-loaded musket at his feet."
—David Hackett Fischer, Paul Revere's Ride
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US citizens own modern muskets firing 6,000 bullets per second
Well why don'tcha put HER in charge?!
-Bill Paxton, Aliens
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A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
The Milita, as Constitutionally expressed, means every person in the country old enough to pick up and use a firearm.
EVERYONE
Period.
Thus, it was exactly intended to ensure that the state and/or FedGov never, ever outgunned "the people" and in fact the intention as expressed in the Federalist/AntiFederalist debates and papers was that the citizens should OUTGUN any standing army raised.
So read The Federalist Papers, and The AntiFederalist Papers (easy enough to google em, I've posted the links a couple times already) for more details on this issue.
WE, are the milita, We-The-People, that means us, when it says militia.
Just so ya know,
-F
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Hey, PirateNews, where'd you get that awesome picture?
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Originally posted by fredgiblet:
Hey, PirateNews, where'd you get that awesome picture?
Yeah, that's a winner. I bet everyone screams like that the first time they shoot one.
No website, just an index to pirate:
http://home.nc.rr.com/shayden/
Do a Google image search for "miniguns". I used to work on those things in USAF, and now I'm starting to at least look at them again. They aren't too expensive, either, so far as men's toys go. Bullets, however, can get pricey after a few seconds, unless you have a 22 rimfire Gatling Gun.
The psychos in Gangsta Govt have hijacked most of the guns. Now it's time for sane people to defend themselves, one way or another.
"You can't stop the signal!"
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I am very pro-gun, esspesally being Libritarian i belive someone should be able to own a gun if they want, (unless under specific circumstances) Guns are vital to self defense, and if guns where outlawed, only outlaws would own them and crime rates would SKYROCKET!
Well, here I am
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Citizen and I had an interesting conversation about this on another thread.
Apparently the British system results in MORE CRIME but with FEWER DEATHS while the American system results in MORE DEATHS but with FEWER CRIMES. Essentially, their crimes are more numerous (per capita), but our crimes are more lethal.
After discussing it with him, I now finally understand the British view. They are not unlike Ghandi or Christ, willing to take an individual whallop if it reduces the number of people slain in society at large.
I am, sadly, not very Christ-like. I don't want to disarm. I'd rather make an attempt to defend myself.
So, for those that agree with my point of view, here are some random heartwarming anecdotes of successful self-defense, collected from 1990-2000. This is part of a list of 1080 recorded cases of firearms being used in self defense collected by the Healy Law Office in Tyler, Texas:
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Bill Hazen was in his cabin near Bakersfield, Calif., shortly after midnight when an intruder forced a sliding glass door. The Los Angeles minister was armed and ordered the man outside. During an ensuing scuffle the attacker ran, but an accomplice appeared in a pickup truck and tried to run down Hazen. The minister fired at the advancing truck and when the vehicle stopped, its occupant got out and said, "I counted six shots; you're out and now I'm going to get you." Hazen fired his large-capacity semi-automatic once more, dropping his adversary. Both men were taken into custody by sheriff's deputies. (The Californian, Bakersfield, Calif. 10/25/89)
Wilson Brown, 84, and his wife were watching television in their Pittsburgh, Pa., home when a man climbed through their apartment window. The intruder wanted money, and Brown gave him $2--all he had. But the robber wasn't satisfied, and he put a knife to the wife's throat and demanded more. Brown went to the bedroom, returned with a revolver and fired on his wife's assailant. He let go of her and jumped out the window. (The Press, Pittsburgh, Pa. 9/22/89)
New York, N.Y., businessman Richard Rand was walking from his car to his house when a man ran up behind him and tried to grab his money bag. The robber hit Rand over the head and threw ammonia in his face, but Rand managed to draw his licensed revolver and fatally shoot his attacker. (The Post, New York, N.Y. 9/28/89)
Paul Green was on his way to buy cigarettes at a Hot Springs, Ark., gas station when he spotted the flash from a large knife in the attendant's cubicle. Armed with a handgun, Green investigated and found a knife-wielding thug stealing money. He told the man to freeze, but the robber tried to stab him. Green fired once, killing the masked would-be thief--a parolee with a long record of violent crime. The female station attendant was not injured. (The Arkansas Gazette, Little Rock, Ark. 10/28/89)
"Give me all you got, buddy," a knife-wielding robber ordered Anderson, Ind., resident Link Oliver as he walked down the street. The 61-year-old man responded by drawing a handgun. Oliver tried to lead his adversary to a nearby store, but the man dropped the knife and ran away. (The HeraldlBulletin, Anderson,lnd. 10/10/89)
Bruce Paquette and a friend were hunting in the vicinity of Merrimack, N.H., when they came across a group of vandals ransacking a car. The hunters ordered the foursome to stop and held them at gunpoint until police arrived to take them into custody. (The Monitor, Concord, N.H. 10/16/89)
A pregnant Weverton, Md., woman was washing the dishes when she heard a doorknob rattling. She saw a ski-masked man trying to break in, and she raced to a bedroom to grab her husband's revolver. While she was on the phone to police, the prowler broke out a kitchen window to gain entry. The 23-year-old woman fired a shot into the floor; the man fled. (The Morning Herald, Hagerstown, Md. 11/2/89)
Joseph Mills' wife awoke when she heard noises outside their Ashland, Va., home. She alerted her husband, and they watched a man who'd been standing on their porch go to a
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
I am, sadly, not very Christ-like. I don't want to disarm. I'd rather make an attempt to defend myself.
I'd rather succeed but to each his own
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