EUROPE VS US
POSTED BY: Arya
UPDATED: Monday, May 15, 2006 15:51
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Originally posted by embers:
The US seems more homogenized, and more commericalized... Newer but not built to last.
Not meaning to sound patronising but I find American ideas of history to be so sweet! I used to live in 1 550 year old farmhouse. I had a friend from the US express disbelief that anyone would be allowed to live in such an old building, surely it should be a museum! Ha! It wasn't even a listed building!
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Do you have Mother's Day in Europe or is it just a Halmark Holiday (and excuse to sell greeting cards) here in the USA?
Actually it was invented in England (I think, or so I was told) back in the industrial revolution so that young girls could visit their families before Lent. It's on 26th March over here. I remembered this year!!
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Yes, it's Mothersday today here. And my mom the greatest so we celebrated alright.
To continue my question: would you agree to pay more taxes for a better healthcaresystem?
Here we pay up to 50% of taxes on our wage. In return we only pay a little fee when we visit a hospital or a doctor.
It seems like alot of taxes but when you get sick here you're happy they have this system.
For instance; I'm due to have my baby in seven months from now and if you reckon I'll stay a full six or seven days in the hospital I'll probably pay about 150 to 200 euro's. That would be 194 dollars to 258 max. The rest is paid by the government.
Didn't Hilary C. had a program like that some time ago?
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here i the US we have tax brackets. I myself being a small business owner pay around 35% of my wage to taxes then i also pay around 200 bux a month for my health insurance. My company also pays for 100% of our employees health insurance costs. a simple doctor visit under our plan costs 15 bux, A generic perscription costs 15 bux. Sometimes I wish the would just take the extra 15% of my wage and have a nationwide healthcare system.
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Quote:It's a percentage, should of said Infant mortality rate, sorry. Nothing against US doctors or anything but one of the major failings in the US system is that it is not Health care it is emergency care. You wait till someone is ill before doing anything about it, rather than ensuring their good health and preventing illness.
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Not to disagree on any particular point, since I think "health care" in this country is horrible, but it should be taken into account that there are a lot more people here than England, which means there are more babies, which means there's likely to be more infant mortalities. If it's a percentage I really don't have an argument, but if it's just a tally our massive population should be taken into account.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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Quote:I sympathise, I really do, but you find stories like yours in all healthcare systems. The NHS isn't any worse than any other. There are better, for instance the German civil and the British millitary healthcare I'd place above the NHS, but for each f**k up there's a hundred thousand success stories. What happened to you should never of happened, but it happens everywhere, doctors and nurses are people and people f**k up, unfortunatly in most professions screwing up means you have to come in on the weekend, in the medical profession it means someone's life is affected
Originally posted by Keyoke:
I have my own reasons against the NHS...
.Quote:I can raise a glass to that.
I feel old and bitter... Firefly time.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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I tend to interperate the major difference between the two as the the us system is run like a shop, and the uk system like Scrooges workshops.
The NHS is under constant budget constraints, there is too little money, too few medical staff (we have them, the NHS just can't afford to employ them cause the people incharge (government etc and execs etc) are such retards millions of pound of tax payers money is heamorraging (SP?) our of their arses before it gets anywhere near a ward or gp's office) so the doctors we have are overworked, undersupported, concerned more about costs than about investigating an illness, and quite frankly loosing the ability to care.
In america, (from what I gather) they are keen to see you, they will do whatever they can to help you because they can charge you for it, and will carry on 'helping' you until they can't any more.
So a brit goes to see their GP, they are given something to treat the symptoms, If they go again, they may have a few tests, take different drugs, if the doctor see something serious, they may be referred to a specialist, treatment is drawn out over years, as you have to be slotted in around resources and available doctors, and most of the time, you just give up and suffer (my grandfather and his father both died of a particularly hidious stomach cancer because they both got sick of their doctors and stopped going to see them until it was too late) And if your local authority can't afford a particular drug that you need than thats it, your screwed.
In america, (please correct me if i'm wrong) they will immedietly start treating symptoms and testing causes, cause thats how thay make their money, treatment is as quick as you can afford and any drug that you need, or specialist that you need to see, if your insurance covers it, then there you go.
Of course, if you don't have insurance, then your even more screwed than the brits, and god help you.
On a slightly different subject.
We had a load of tourists from somewhere in the south in the other day, and i made the comment that they were at such pains to make sure you knew they were being polite and friendly. Then one of the guys I was talking to said something like 'yeah, probably used to dealing with people who'd shoot them if they got offended'
Do you think thats really the case? Do you think thats why this culture of total pc-ism and hyper friendliness has grown? because of an increased threat of violence?
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I love Europe and have worked in a number of different countries there. The people are great and the food is even better.
But when it comes to lifestyle and government, I pick USA hands down!
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Some of you may have recently seen the tv shows here in the US about British chef Jamie Oliver and his obsession to improve school lunch programs - absolutely fantastic, almost made me weepy to see what those little nippers were being fed
I am aware that similar efforts are being tried in US schools. Hey! Nutritionally challenged food programs is something else we have in common!
Did you know that kids apparently revolted against the new schoollunches! Try to do some good...
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Originally posted by raleighbrowncoat:
I actually think we are more similar than different. In fact, I think that once you put aside largely superficial cultural differences, people are the same all over the world. The same things are important to all of us: shelter, food, work, and love of family.
That's why I think Firefly is so great. It speaks to these universal truths and shows us that even 500 years in the future, these same things will still be important. They are the types of things that ties us all together, even if we get in spats here and there.
Just my < $0.02.
True, that are the most important things; although we sometimes forget...
But that's not why I liked firefly in the first place. It was because the crew does not live a life that is regarded as being proper and they're happy with that.
It took me a while but 6 months ago I decided I didn't want to participate in this commercial, materialistic society anymore. I didn't want to make loads of money anymore or buy a new cellphone every few months or have the latest IPod... And my friends/family thought I was going nuts! They didn't understand.
I quit my job at some commercial corporate firm and sold my car; I got a parttime job in a retirement home nearby where I also volunteer.
I turned my garden into a grocery store and started baking my own bread.
And you know what? I feel great! And I sleep better!
So who cares what other people think! And that's what I like about Firefly.
Does that make any sense?
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no it is great, I'm amazed when people manage to do that, I just can't see a way out of my situation short well, I was going to say running away and starting over, but thats equally as stupid as any other option. So with out sounding corny, well done and I'm glad that you are happy.
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KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
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