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Firefly VIRTUAL SEASON 2 well underway!

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UPDATED: Friday, May 26, 2006 13:11
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Friday, May 12, 2006 6:33 PM

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As the person who created the story for "Hero Complex" and who was origially slated to write/co-write the episode (real-life concerns ended up keeping me from fulfilling my writing duties), I'm interested in hearing more about your thoughts on the episode.

In terms of the darkness of the episode, I don't personally think it's any darker than, for example, "War Games", but it's certainly more visceral than any of the other episodes of the series (either ours or Joss') and for good reason, since it needs to serve as a sort of sequel to "War Games" and to tie up loose ends from that episode and to serve as a bridge between preceding and proceeding events such as Kaylee's confrontation with Early from OiS and Inara's departure from Serenity. The episode's events also serve to sort of foreshadow Mal's eventual backwards slide into darkness and aloofness.



It wasn't that it was dark. The trouble is more that

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Niska dies,

and that it's Jayne who kills him. Ana was cool, and the whole involvement that the crew had with the situation was believable, but I think that the torture that Niska put them through would have lasting effects on the crew's relationships, let alone physical damage. After all, we see that Mal hasn't quite recovered from his "War Stories" wounds by the movie; certainly, less tough members of the crew would have even more noticable changes by that time. But really, it's the episode's conclusion, and the removal from the story of a great and menacing character that shakes my enjoyment of the episode. I think that the villain could have been put to a more climactic death by the one who hates him most: Mal.

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The reason we ultimately went with Niska dying the way he did is because we wanted to show Jayne trying (and failing) to make up for the mistake he made in Ariel; we also wanted to put Mal into a situation where he doesn't get to become the hero (which, especially in regards to Inara, is gonna screw with his mind and lead him back to the darker, more aloof Mal that we see by the beginning of the events in the film).

As to why we killed Niska off, we wanted to tie up loose ends from Season 1 and allow ourselves a 'clean slate' heading into Season 2, and Niska's death felt like the best way to resolve his particular storyline from "War Stories". We'd initially discussed having Mal be the one to kill Niska, but when the episode became more and more about Jayne and his attempt to absolve himself of his guilt over Ariel and become a hero, it felt right that he be the one to be responsible for killing Niska; I also felt that, like I said, it'd give us more layers to work with in terms of sliding Mal backwards into his aloof, darker personality if Mal wasn't the one to 'get the job done' in killing Niska.

As to any residual effects from what happens in "Hero Complex", the events of that episode further Inara's decision to leave the ship, contribute to Book's decision to leave the ship, and have a profound effect on Kaylee's psyche (which is really evident in "Property Rights" and her interaction with her parents). Also, I can tell you that we're going to be seeing some profound stuff happening in regards to Zoe and Wash and their role(s) on the ship in coming Season 2 episodes, and that the events of "Hero Complex" are going to play a part in what's coming up.

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 8:06 PM

Hey, folks. Just wanted to give this thread a little self-serving bump to remind folks that our 11th episode ("Fireworks") is out there! Come to www.stillflying.net to read the episodes, see some extras, and discuss things in the forum!

www.stillflying.net: "Here's how it might have been..."

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Friday, May 26, 2006 1:11 PM

Shameless bump... because we believe in our stuff and we know you'll love it.

An update folks:

We have our 5th episode for Season 2 ready to go. It will hopefully be posted within hours... and it is fan-bloody-tastic.
(I can say that, because I didn't write it.)


For those of you who are not familiar with our project, Still Flying is a fan-based site dedicated to a "virtual continuation" of Joss Whedon's "Firefly" in the form of scripts of additional episodes. We've rounded out Season One, completing it with seven new episodes (including a season finale based on "Serenity: Those Left Behind" from Dark Horse Comics).

Season Two is dedicated to exploring the question, "What would things have been like if Joss Whedon had been able to tell the story of Serenity in 22 episodes rather than 2 hours?" Our story will take you to most of the same places the movie does, but the path along the way will be a little different, and a lot longer.

We'll see some old friends and more than a few old enemies. We can't promise that we'll entertain you as much as Mister Whedon would have, but you should know that this project has been put together by those who care about the show, and we're taking this bird up out of love.

Like most Browncoats, we know that Whedon will return to us with another movie, book, or some other way to continue the tale he started in "Firefly." Until that time, we'll be here. We will hold the line.

We can't show you exactly how Joss Whedon would've done it, but we can tell you...
"Here's how it might have been..."

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