NSA spies on EVERYONE

POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Monday, May 15, 2006 19:19
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SIGNYM

Friday, May 12, 2006 3:48 AM

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Sounds like its the phone companies that are gathering this information of their own accord. NSA is merely making use of what these companies are doing. Good faith time of war kind of idea.-Hero
What a crock. Go to law school some day. The Constitution doesn't provide protection from business, it provides protection from government. The government is not authorized to have this information without a warrant.-Rue

Thank you, Rue. Zero really is a lickspittle jackboot. ANYTHING for the government!

So Zero, I've got something for you. It's from the Prez. Bend over. Enjoy.

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CHRISISALL

Friday, May 12, 2006 1:53 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:

If I invented some technology that had an alternate use to a Federal Agency in its effort to curb terrorism, then I'd gladly provide it.

Me too.
Because if i didn't, I'd be eating gourmet meals at Gitmo.

Chrisisall

CITIZEN

Friday, May 12, 2006 2:03 PM

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Originally posted by Geezer:
I'm really more curious as to why the phone companies are collecting and archiving this data in the first place.

Itimised phone bills?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

HERO

Friday, May 12, 2006 2:10 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
Zero,

If I invented some technology that had an alternate use to a Federal Agency in its effort to curb terrorism, then I'd gladly provide it.

What a crock. Go to law school some day. The Constitution doesn't provide protection from business, it provides protection from government. The government is not authorized to have this information without a warrant.

I hate to disagree, well not really. Police can use, without warrants information that has been gathered by a third party provided that the third party was not acting as an agent of the police. If they gather the information of their own volition, then it can be used. Naturally this is a general rule and their are nuances, exceptions, and limitations. Also if the third party commits a crime the third party can be prosecuted.

So if PN breaks into your house to videotape your live video conferance with Osama...the police can use it.

As for the NSA Phone directory...the Supreme Court has specifically acknowledged that the Constitution authorizes these types of databases.

H

HERO

Friday, May 12, 2006 2:14 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Because if i didn't, I'd be eating gourmet meals at Gitmo.

I doubt that. Your far more likely to end up in an unspecified foriegn country with Signy and PN enjoying some of the many alternate uses for cattle prods.

You'll talk...oh yes, you'll tell us everything...

H

HERO

Friday, May 12, 2006 2:18 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Zero really is a lickspittle jackboot. ANYTHING for the government!

Wow, someone needs a pill this morning.

As long as my taxes keep getting cut...they can have a copy of my phone bill.

I think your just embarrassed that the NSA knows about your '1-900-SPANK-ME' addiction.

H

CHRISISALL

Friday, May 12, 2006 2:58 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
the Supreme Court has specifically acknowledged that the Constitution authorizes these types of databases.

I found that part in the Constitution:

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"...persuant to evidence of misconduct and future methods of information storage (referred to by Mr. Jefferson as 'Date-bases'), all date-bases will be open to all government agencies for full and unrestricted use, for at such time of said technology, Human evolution will have evolved beyond petty politics into the Utopian dream, and such restrictions will be rendered pointless..."

I didn't know they thought that far ahead....

Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Friday, May 12, 2006 3:35 PM

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I'm really more curious as to why the phone companies are collecting and archiving this data in the first place.

Well geezer just pretends to be stupid so that we wind up talking about how stupid Geezer is instead of how evil the government is. You see, Geezer will even trade in his reputation as something of an intellect in order to protect the beast. He's be the one on the sidelines, wondering how the phone numbers of Stalin's internees were going to be redistributed.

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SIGNYM

Friday, May 12, 2006 3:41 PM

Oh wow, Zero, I can see you standing next to Geezer, watching people being rousted in the middle of the night and saying... "You see, we're surrounded by enemies! ENEMIES I tell you! And those kulaks*, they're just part of the conspiracy! Along with those who talk about the ideals of our early government! Along with those intellectutals! ROUND THEM ALL UP!"

*kulaks- that means look it up and learn some history.

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SIGNYM

Friday, May 12, 2006 3:46 PM

Meanwhile, armed forces will be deployed in the USA.

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Faced with growing pressure from southern states, the Bush administration wants the military to come up with ideas to help solve security problems along the U.S. border with Mexico.

OH PUHLEEZ! Why doesn't Bush just fund the Border Patrol instead of squeezing it to death? We don't need "the military" to do this job, we just need Bush to do HIS job by making sure Immigration has the resources and the mandate to do their job!

The pattern is that Bush uses every problem to extend his authority. High gas prices? Just give him the authority to set CAFE standards! (Nevermind that he would be legislating from the Oval Office.) Attack on the USA? Just gather up info on BILLIONS of phone calls of unsuspected- and unsuspecting- citizens! Problems at the southern border after squeezing the Border Patrol dry? Send in the troops!

It should make you nervous.

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