The Sadness

POSTED BY: Eleven13
UPDATED: Friday, May 12, 2006 21:19
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ELEVEN13

Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:36 PM

I find that what is so endearing about the gyst of the show/movie is the fatalist attitude.....yet there is humor in that. My new album is an attempt to weave that feeling Firefly leaves in your guts afterwards....Like you're stoically plugging along. I just have to stay away from the country western vibe......

MILFORD

Friday, May 12, 2006 2:15 AM

Hmmm... that's interesting. I never thought about it until now. I recently read an interesting book by Edith Hamilton called Mythology, very good if you're interested in that kind of thing. Anyhoo, the essential tenet of Norse mythology is the fatality of it all. The gods prepare for a war that comes at the end of time. When it comes, they know they're all going to die. There's no other option. They achieve glory by fighting as fiercely as possible. Sounds a lot like our captain doesn't it?

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PDCHARLES

Friday, May 12, 2006 2:25 AM

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Originally posted by milford:
When it comes, they know they're all going to die. There's no other option. They achieve glory by fighting as fiercely as possible. Sounds a lot like our captain doesn't it?

Not only sounds like... an excellent analogy!

I'll have to check that book out

NOSADSEVEN

Friday, May 12, 2006 3:59 AM

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Originally posted by Eleven13:
I find that what is so endearing about the gyst of the show/movie is the fatalist attitude.....yet there is humor in that. My new album is an attempt to weave that feeling Firefly leaves in your guts afterwards....Like you're stoically plugging along. I just have to stay away from the country western vibe......

I've always appreciated "that feeling Firefly leaves in your guts". It's why I find the show's own struggle for continued existence oddly beautiful...

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CHRISMOORHEAD

Friday, May 12, 2006 6:29 AM

Ah, the great battle of Ragnarok, where all the mighty warriors from Valhalla will rage against the tides of time at the back of Odin!

I think it's this June, actually. Here, take a look http://www.dagorhir.com/ragnarok

RIVER6213

Friday, May 12, 2006 6:34 AM

I wonder if Joss sleeps well at night, knowing that he created something that we fans are somewhat obsessed with? For the rest of his writing and directing career, he will be constantly dogged by the "Firefly" question. It will follow him until the day he dies I suspect.

I'm so glad I'm not him. I would move and do my directing and writings of movies from another country just so I wouldn't have to run into that occasional BDF (Big Damned Fan) who would be armed with a wide range of questions regarding Firefly.

How can Joss sleep at night knowing that he started something and didn't finish it?
How can he sleep.
I would not be able too.

River

P.S. I watched yet again the whole Firefly season and I am left with once again the feeling that I lost something important, something that was left unfinished. A painting that was left undone.

How can Joss sleep at night...how?

CHRISMOORHEAD

Friday, May 12, 2006 7:04 AM

Althoug I'm sure EVERYONE here feels like that, I just wanted to personally concur. I don't think I was ever to put it so simply as you have just now. Usually for me it's just rants of cursing and "How could THIS get cancelled!?", but the un-finished painting thing is really the driving force behind my anguish.

I always get an empty feeling at the end of a good story. Up untill now, it's mostly been with Japanese themed stories. The book "Musashi" by Eiji Yoshikawa, the movies "Ghost Dog" and "The Last Samurai". Something about that fatalist attitude, the characters you love most dying tragically, so tragically that it's beautiful.

I suppose that'd be a fitting description of the Firefly series and Serenity as a whole. Even with Wash and Book dead, I'm speaking more figuratively. The show was destined to have an un-appy ending. That was kind of the point of the story, finding beauty in despairity. But it's ten times worse with this, because it died TOO early, and what's worse, I wasn't even around to enjoy the true experience of it existing. All I caught was the monuments to it's death.

I'm with you all. I hate this feeling, like there's nothing I can do for something I want so bad. If there was a guerentee that it would bring the show back, I'd give all my money and everything I own. It feels pathetic just saying that, but it's the damn truth.

sigh... I'm gonna go look down the barrel of my .38 for a while.

FOLLOWMAL

Friday, May 12, 2006 7:19 AM

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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:

I'm with you all. I hate this feeling, like there's nothing I can do for something I want so bad. If there was a guerentee that it would bring the show back, I'd give all my money and everything I own. It feels pathetic just saying that, but it's the damn truth.

I think I am here too. Pathetic, no... Love, yes.
It's the exact same feeling I have had when my love is not with me.

This show is so gorram good it evokes those feelings so deeply. And it evokes them in all of us...and here we are.
And much like the Captain, who always seems to face adversity with that attitude of--- well, here I am and there it is and I'm getting thru it---Im not going to despair, I'm gonna hold here.

The 'verse will come back.

And Chris, don't do that, just stay here with us.
We need folks with that much love for the show.

"You hold. Hold 'til I get back." Mal

RIVER6213

Friday, May 12, 2006 7:37 AM

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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
Althoug I'm sure EVERYONE here feels like that, I just wanted to personally concur. I don't think I was ever to put it so simply as you have just now. Usually for me it's just rants of cursing and "How could THIS get cancelled!?", but the un-finished painting thing is really the driving force behind my anguish.

I always get an empty feeling at the end of a good story. Up untill now, it's mostly been with Japanese themed stories. The book "Musashi" by Eiji Yoshikawa, the movies "Ghost Dog" and "The Last Samurai". Something about that fatalist attitude, the characters you love most dying tragically, so tragically that it's beautiful.

I suppose that'd be a fitting description of the Firefly series and Serenity as a whole. Even with Wash and Book dead, I'm speaking more figuratively. The show was destined to have an un-appy ending. That was kind of the point of the story, finding beauty in despairity. But it's ten times worse with this, because it died TOO early, and what's worse, I wasn't even around to enjoy the true experience of it existing. All I caught was the monuments to it's death.

I'm with you all. I hate this feeling, like there's nothing I can do for something I want so bad. If there was a guerentee that it would bring the show back, I'd give all my money and everything I own. It feels pathetic just saying that, but it's the damn truth.

sigh... I'm gonna go look down the barrel of my .38 for a while.

Don't waste your time feeling pathetic for saying that...it’s true. It's a sum up of all that we feel regarding Firefly.

There is a certain emptiness that the last DVD, the last episode of Firefly leaves you with, a certain sadness. These wonderful characters have been left in limbo, these wonderful characters who we were forced to learn to love (yes, I said love) lives and stories have been tossed into the land of limbo, and their stories were not completed, a great painting unfinished thrown into a forgotten attic as though it, or they had no impact on anything or anyone whatsoever. A great idea scraped simply because it was the right show at the wrong time. Our loss and its so

sad.

Watching Mal in action again after not have watched Fly in such a while…I really like him. He so serious for one so young. He likes to think that he such a hardass, but he’s a man with serious convictions. He’s one of the good guys. He doesn’t really know this. He deals with what’s in front of his face. He stands up for the underdog, and he loathes the idea of bullies.

Inara, will we ever really know about her besides the fact that she’s a Companion? There is more to this person that meets the eye. Her past and those questions were taken away from us, so we have no choice but to speculate on what her story really was all about.

Kaylee, our wonderful, delightful Kaylee. Will we ever know where she came from? What family could have created such a positive person?

The same with the remaining characters….their stories are lost in limbo now that Joss has his career to do. It’s rather unfair, but I guess this is how life works on the screen. Sometimes I wish I never heard of Firefly.

How can Joss sleep at night?

River

RIVER6213

Friday, May 12, 2006 7:46 AM

I would also like to mention that the movie, which was great in my book, only added too the sadness, and generated more questions which will never be answered. More stories untold.

Our Big Damned heroes vaporized into the world of nothingness and no one but us cares about it...not even the dreammaker Joss.

So I guess I got to be dumped twice. 1st by my husband 6 years ago, and now by Joss, a man I never met. Life is funny like that.

River

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