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NSA spies on EVERYONE

POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Monday, May 15, 2006 19:19
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Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:22 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
=You know, I don't use this word very often but this Administration is EVIL. EVIL.
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Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.




I agree with everything you said, but would like to add something.

It's BULLSHIT all of it, BULLSHIT!

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

You know, I don't use this word very often but this Administration is EVIL. EVIL.

Phoney real-estate dudes used to sell newly freed slaves land that didn't exist; this mentality has always been here, but the scope it operates on now is mind-boggling.
Could the Bush administration be called one big conspiracy?

Chrisisall

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RUE
Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:46 PM

It's a kleptocracy - the rich and powerful stealing whatever they can.


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:21 PM

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It's a kleptocracy

That's it- one eight year run at squeezing the world, and seeing what they can all retire on, or pass to their (hopefully) evil descendants.

Chrisisall

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
It's a kleptocracy - the rich and powerful stealing whatever they can.


They're not stealing it, they're entitled too it. They're better than you, get over it ...



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Friday, May 12, 2006 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
It's a kleptocracy - the rich and powerful stealing whatever they can.


They're not stealing it, they're entitled too it. They're better than you, get over it ...


I agree. If anything, it's the poor that are stealing from the rich. With their pathetic demands for healthcare and education and well-balanced budgets and addressing national debt... sickening. How are the rich and powerful supposed to enjoy their riches and power when all that these plebs can do is demand stuff from them all the time?



Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.

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Friday, May 12, 2006 1:08 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth telephone



Sounds like its the phone companies that are gathering this information of their own accord. NSA is merely making use of what these companies are doing. Good faith time of war kind of idea.

If I invented some technology that had an alternate use to a Federal Agency in its effort to curb terrorism, then I'd gladly provide it. Its really no different then law enforcement making use of something like a security camera located at an ATM or Quickie Mart for a law enforcement purpose.

I also note for the record that the Constitution does not prohibit domestic surveilance without a warrant...merely such activity by the government or its agents. So when PirateNews uses his video camera to spy on Jews and Commie Gangsta Police, he might be committing various crimes like tresspassing, stalking, and child endangering...but he is NOT violating the Constitution.

H

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Friday, May 12, 2006 2:19 AM

I'm really more curious as to why the phone companies are collecting and archiving this data in the first place.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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RUE
Friday, May 12, 2006 2:25 AM

Zero,

If I invented some technology that had an alternate use to a Federal Agency in its effort to curb terrorism, then I'd gladly provide it.

What a crock. Go to law school some day. The Constitution doesn't provide protection from business, it provides protection from government. The government is not authorized to have this information without a warrant.




Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Friday, May 12, 2006 3:43 AM

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I'm really more curious as to why the phone companies are collecting and archiving this data in the first place.
Ever look at your phone bill? It details all of the calls from a phone number, the number dialed, time and date. They use it to calculate your bill. I suppose they need to archive it for a certain number of months (possibly even years) in case of bill disputes. It may even be required by law in case the FCC needs to investigate charges of overbilling or whatever. And the problems is that with computers and cheaper hard drives, databasing is so EASY. But I've said before that I think ANY organization- whether it is a credit card company, grocery store, FBI, health insurance, NSA, or one of those ad hoc skip trace databases- must

(1) inform their subjects that they are part of their database and detail the information they have collected
(2) provide an opportunity for the subject to correct information and
(3) notify the suject whenever their information is acquired or examined by another entity.

I think with thos requirements, many of the optional databases would be eliminated.

But why would you be "more" curious about the phone companies? Aren't you at all curious why the government would invade the privacy of tens of millions of people?


Oh that's right- of course not. You've just figured out a way to wordsmith your acquiesence to an evil government.

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