NSA spies on EVERYONE

POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Monday, May 15, 2006 19:19
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SIGNYM

Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:50 PM

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NSA building giant database of U.S. phone calls. The government has been secretly collecting records of ordinary Americans' phone calls in an effort to build a database of every call made within the country, it was reported today. AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth telephone companies began turning over records of tens of millions of their customers' phone calls to the National Security Agency program shortly after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, reported USA Today.

www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/05/11/nsa.phonerecords.ap/index.html

Wow.

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ANTHONYT

Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:10 PM

This does not make me feel warm and fuzzy.

I can only hope that the NSA's Dbase software chokes on the sheer volume of information, and that the data entry personnel get painful hand cramps.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

EVILDINOSAUR

Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM

That in no way surprises me.

"Haha, mine is an evil laugh."

PENGUIN

Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:00 PM

I'm SHOCKED!

SIGNYM

Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:15 PM

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President George W. Bush on Thursday said intelligence activities he has authorized are lawful

http://today.reuters.com/news/home.aspx

How ?#!@&% stupid does he think we are? Yeah, I now what he's going to say (if he hasn't already) We didn't "listen in" and therefore it's not wiretapping and therefore it's legal and besides it was authorized under the Patriot Act and besides I'm the President and as Commander-in-Chief I can do anything. At this point, even the most die-hard Bush supporters must realize that the guy thinks he IS the law.

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RUE

Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:02 PM

Pen registers are surveillance devices that capture the phone numbers dialed on outgoing telephone calls; trap and trace devices capture the numbers identifying incoming calls. They are not supposed to reveal the content of communications. They are not even supposed to identify the parties to a communication or whether a call was connected, only that one phone dialed another phone. Nonetheless, in an increasingly connected world, a recording of every telephone number dialed and the source of every call received can provide a very complete picture - a profile - of a person's associations, habits, contacts, interests and activities. For that reason, pen registers and trap and trace devices are very helpful to law enforcement and pose significant privacy concerns. Much of the current debate over surveillance standards relates to the collection of transactional data by these devices and by other means.

A 1986 federal law requires a court order for use of such devices, but the standard for approval is so low as to be nearly worthless - a prosecutor does not have to justify the request and judges are required to approve every request.

http://www.cdt.org/security/000404amending.shtml

Technically, they should have gotten court orders, since they are doing this on a massive scale, which is just doing it individually, multiplied.

Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:09 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
At this point, even the most die-hard Bush supporters must realize that the guy thinks he IS the law.

There's many right on this board who support and respect the man, and still will, even after he nukes an unpopulated target in Iran. They'll say "It had to be done, and see, no civilian casualties!"
Naw, just a radiation cloud. A few rads will be good for their bio-diversity.

It's good to be the King.

Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:16 PM

No, it's good be be Supreme Leader. As Bush said "things would be so much easier if this were a dictatorship". And they thought he was joking! HA!

Anyway, Im surprised not to find the usual Bush apologists spinning their usual crap. I can't imagine that this actually shocked anyone in that camp into re-thinking their view of Bush, because OF COURSE it's required to spy on every single citizen in the USA who is suspected of absolutely NOTHING in order to catch terrorists.

They're just figuring out how to word-smith this so that they don't look like lickspittle jackboots.

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Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:51 PM

How long before a similar 'program' if you will, is put into place in Canada, although terrorist attacks are not a problem, but Harper may want to try it.

I think a little chaos is in order.

SIGNYM

Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:04 PM

And so we get General Hayden nominated as head of CIA. Gnl Hayden was in charge of the NSA during this massive fishing expedition, and is closely allied with John "Death Squad" Negroponte, former Ambassador to Hundoras and Iraq and current National Intelligence Director.

How can I say this w/o going into Pirate News-style ranting? The Bush administration (not Bush himself, he's too stupid to find his own d*ck with help from Dick) engineered a coup. They fudged two elections, managed to lie us into a quagmire, sent young peole to die while charging them for food and body armor, are busily bankrupting the Treasury, made torture and indefinite detention acceptable, screwed the middle class and the poor with their so-called tax breaks, mangled the response to Katrina, and shovelled money and influence at their buds- the pharmas, credit card companies, war profiteers, energy companies and- oh yes- let's not forget the oil companies.

You know, I don't use this word very often but this Administration is EVIL. EVIL.
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