We're gonna nuke Iran!

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CITIZEN

Saturday, May 6, 2006 10:54 PM

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Originally posted by KPO:
I think it's widely accepted now that this view is the result of Allied propoganda, who wanted to spare the emperor and the japanese people. From the article I linked earlier:

I'm aware that it's now believed that the Emperor had a much bigger say but I haven't seen anything that indicates the Allies knew that.

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You say quite correctly that it was possible that hundreds of thousands could have been spared - it depends how much you value upholding justice.

I've always thought it would be better to let some of the guilty go free to protect the innocent from wrongful imprisonment. So when we're discussing the deaths of 100,000's against justice for one man, for me it's a no-brainer.

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It's hard to put an acceptable figure on it, and you must remember that enemy civilian lives were quite cheap in the minds of military commanders at that point in time.

This might explain the decision, but it doesn't justify it, quite the opposite in my mind.

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The devestation and number of casualties was not so much greater than the firebombing missions of other Japanese and German cities sanctioned by other presidents before him, so he already had a precedent.

Possibly but there's much more to the A-Bomb than the initial casualties (which outstripped even the Tokyo bombing which was by far the most 'successful'). There are the birth defects which continue to this day, and the slow lingering deaths of those not killed in initial explosion. It's just so much more of a terrible weapon and way to die than any other.

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I'd say we are rightly more sensitive to these things these days.

Totally.

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AURAPTOR

Saturday, May 6, 2006 11:16 PM

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Now now AU I never said you did say that. However knowing the way you like to go on it sounded like that *could* be what you were trying to say, which is why I asked you to clarify your point because it wasn't at all clear

First of all, that is EXACTLY what you did. And further more, you clearly DON'T know what I say. I just give you straight answers, and you seem to have a problem w/ that. You seldom pay attention, you only see what you WANT to see.

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Originally posted by citizen: I merely asked you to clarify your point, which frankly sounded like a snarky "you Brits burned German cities" reply and you threw your toys out of the pram, but try to make yourself look like the "bigger man" if you wish. I know how much that means too you.

It 'sounded like' only to you, because you hear/see / read only what you WANT to. There's other voices in your head, since I know you're not responding to what I post.

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Originally posted by citizen: Prior to AU's attempt at revisionist history:

There was no attempt by me to revise history, and you know it. I never denied the post you initially replied to. You waited a full 2 minutes after my earlier post, while I decided to give a different response . I had no way of knowing you'd be instantly replying to my message. You DO know that you can uncheck the box that sends you an e-mail for each and every reply, don't you? Meh, I guess you live for such stuff. Good for you.

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Originally posted by citizen: When you make baseless accusations without backing them up and spend more time doing it than making your meagre poorly reasoned point that’s when you reach your average every day level of tedium, for AURaptor that is

If and when I ever fail to back up any of my claims, you let me know, ok ? Until then, stop projecting your faults and foilbles onto others.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

CITIZEN

Saturday, May 6, 2006 11:56 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
First of all, that is EXACTLY what you did.

Erm no. I think I stated quite clearly that it SOUNDED like that's what you were saying, thus my interpretation.

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And further more, you clearly DON'T know what I say.

No I didn't know what you were trying to say, that's why I asked you to clarify your point. One wonders why you threw such an immature tantrum (which doesn't seem to have blown over quite yet) at that.

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I just give you straight answers, and you seem to have a problem w/ that.

Obviously not, otherwise I wouldn't of need to ask you to clarify them and you wouldn't of had such a problem doing so.

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It 'sounded like' only to you, because you hear/see / read only what you WANT to.

No, it's because I'm not you and I interpret things in a different way, a concept you still seem to have a problem with.

Are you Autistic?

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You waited a full 2 minutes after my earlier post

Yep, aren't coincidences grand?

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while I decided to give a different response . I had no way of knowing you'd be instantly replying to my message.

But I did know you'd be instantly changing the contents of your post, did I? Interesting...

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You DO know that you can uncheck the box that sends you an e-mail for each and every reply, don't you? Meh, I guess you live for such stuff. Good for you.

Yes I do. But unlike you, it would seem I have other things to do with my time then constantly going back to check whether someone's replied to me. Thus getting e-mail notifications is rather useful in that capacity

. But hey if you've got nothing better to do with your time than constantly recheck all the threads you've posted on to see if anyone's replied more power to ya.

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You seldom pay attention, you only see what you WANT to see.
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There's other voices in your head, since I know you're not responding to what I post.
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Until then, stop projecting your faults and foilbles onto others.

All very good sentences for you to live by. You should really pay more attention to yourself

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If and when I ever fail to back up any of my claims, you let me know, ok ?

Ok. AURaptor you've failed to back up any of your claims.

Now lastly do you have a response to what I said on the topic we were discussing or would you prefer to carry on making an arse of yourself?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, May 7, 2006 12:26 AM

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Ok. AURaptor you've failed to back up any of your claims.

You're the one making an ass of yourself. I specifically backed up all my claims, and you continue to ignore it. Seems your autism is only part of your problem. Good luck on that.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

CITIZEN

Sunday, May 7, 2006 12:28 AM

Now lastly do you have a response to what I said on the topic we were discussing or would you prefer to carry on making an arse of yourself?
Guess that's a no then.

AURaptor you've failed to back up any of your claims. If you'd like to direct me to any of you supporting statements though, go ahead.

E-mail notification, gotta love it.

Now back to what I was doing, see how much time it saves

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

AURAPTOR

Sunday, May 7, 2006 1:11 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Now lastly do you have a response to what I said on the topic we were discussing or would you prefer to carry on making an arse of yourself?
Guess that's a no then.

AURaptor you've failed to back up any of your claims. If you'd like to direct me to any of you supporting statements though, go ahead.

E-mail notification, gotta love it.

Now back to what I was doing, see how much time it saves

More e-mail for ya, citizen. And, yes, once again, I've already backed up the earlier claim. And like clock work, you ignore it. Do us all a favor and scroll up. Read slowly , if you need to this time. I'll leave the carrying on and ass making up to you, since you're so damn good at it.

I'm done w/ this particular thread, as toying w/ a mental midge that is citizen has become boring. Maybe if you jingled a set of keys in front of your face, you'd distract yourself and forget about posting your tedium over and over again.

To sum up.

As things stand , we're not going to nuke Iran. No need to, doubt it would achieve anything positive.

citizen is a hapless git w/ delusions of grandeur.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

BLAZESOLO

Sunday, May 7, 2006 1:16 AM

Kill'em all let Allah sort'em out !!!!

CHRISISALL

Sunday, May 7, 2006 4:20 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

As things stand , we're not going to nuke Iran. No need to, doubt it would achieve anything positive.

AURaptor, you are FAR more intelligent than our President and Vice-President.
I pray they see it as you do here.

But I fear they don't Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, May 7, 2006 4:22 AM

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Originally posted by BlazeSolo:
Kill'em all let Allah sort'em out !!!!

Which Allah?

Chrisisall

CITIZEN

Sunday, May 7, 2006 11:36 AM

AURaptor, you're doing it again, you're being a penis, what have I told you about that?

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Originally posted AURaptor:
And, yes, once again, I've already backed up the earlier claim. And like clock work, you ignore it. Do us all a favor and scroll up. Read slowly , if you need to this time.

AURaptor, you STILL haven't backed up any of your claims. I asked you to cite the specific statements where you did, and you plainly are unwilling or incapable of doing so. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that you know you haven't backed anything up but, as usual are incapable of doing so now and you are unwilling to admit it.

So, as usual:
AURaptor, you STILL haven't backed up a single word you have said.

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Maybe if you jingled a set of keys in front of your face, you'd distract yourself and forget about posting your tedium over and over again.

Yes it is tedious conversing with someone with the mental capacity and reasoning ability of a two year old.

That's why I spend so much time talking to you like one and pretty much everyone else just ignores you

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As things stand , we're not going to nuke Iran. No need to, doubt it would achieve anything positive.

So what you're saying is nuking Iran is kind of like talking to you, then.

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toying w/ a mental midge that is citizen has become boring.

This is how good I am, he thinks his been toying with me

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Least I can spell midget dear.

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citizen is a hapless git w/ delusions of grandeur.

Immature petty insults that are so wide of the mark they could never hope to upset me?

I must be talking to AURaptor! Well if that's your mental level maybe you'll understand this:

AURaptor is a big stupid poo head and he smells of cheese!

Bubye now, till next time your limited intellect finds itself unable to perpetuate your message of hate without resorting to petty insults, dear.

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