Illegal immigration
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 22, 2026 17:49
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No words can describe how I feel right now after reading this post. This illegal immingration thing hits close to home to me because both my parents came into the U.S. from Mexico around my age. They saw that their lives weren't gonna get better ( both were born into poverty) and knew that the U.S. was the place to be to have a better life. It just hurts me to know that there are people out there saying that Illegal immingrants shouldn't come here. It's like saying that my parents don't deserve to be here, that I shouldn't be here. It just hurts and saddens me to know that there aren't so many people with a bit a sympathy towards Humanity.
p.s. A little history trivia for ya. 6 states of the U.S. BELONGED to Mexico you might know them as California, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, Arizona, and Utah were all part of Mexico until they were STOLEN. So this counrty is a part us. 
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People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
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Communist Aliens?
I suppose you must mean the Martians since there planet is Red.
But they're little and green so does that make them Eco-Commie- Aliens?
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Could be worse. They could be Alien-Commies!
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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No words can describe how I feel right now after reading this post. This illegal immingration thing hits close to home to me because both my parents came into the U.S. from Mexico around my age. They saw that their lives weren't gonna get better ( both were born into poverty) and knew that the U.S. was the place to be to have a better life. It just hurts me to know that there are people out there saying that Illegal immingrants shouldn't come here. It's like saying that my parents don't deserve to be here, that I shouldn't be here. It just hurts and saddens me to know that there aren't so many people with a bit a sympathy towards Humanity.
p.s. A little history trivia for ya. 6 states of the U.S. BELONGED to Mexico you might know them as California, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, Arizona, and Utah were all part of Mexico until they were STOLEN. So this counrty is a part us.
I'm going to try to not get angry about this, but I'm not going to make promises. But why, if your parents decided to enter the country in direct and intentional violation of the immigration laws of the country that they want so much to be a part of, do your parents *deserve* to be here? Where does the sense of entitlement come from? Or should we just forego law and do as we please? Unfortunately, especially since I presume that you've never known anything else, if your parents are in the US illegally and you were born as a child to citizens of a foreign nation, I don't understand in a legal entitlement kind of way *you* deserve to be in the US under illegal conditions?
I'm not trying to be mean, seriously, I'm not, but why is it okay for people to just decide that they are better than everyone else? Why is it fair that people enter the US illegally when others spend years and thousands of dollars to follow the procedure to enter legally. Are those people just fools? Do they deserve to be "taken advantage" of because they want to do things properly, thereby creating a "fool-and-his-money" type of scenario?
And since I'm apparently being a jerk right now, I might as well jump on the Southwestern states thing, too. The Mexican-American War granted those lands to the US. I'll notice that you didn't list Texas in that group. Why? Because Texas, a Mexican province, revolted and became an independent country. Only after that did the Republic of Texas annex to the US.
Unfortunately, that and westward settler expansion seriously upset US-Mexican relations. Interesting parallel, I guess, since US citizens were moving into territory owned by Mexico at the time. But for *whatever* reason (well, mostly the reasons above as I understand it), those tensions bubbled over and caused a war. The outcome of that war was that Mexico *gave* that land to the US in the terms of their surrender.
Especially considering that Empire Building was a primary worldwide foreign policy at the time (hence all of the English, and Spanish, and Dutch, and Portuguese over in the Western Hemisphere in the first place), I hardly can accept that that can remotely be called "stealing" land.
I think I'm going to hush for a while now. I'm starting to get upset and I said that I would try not to. I suspect that pressing on is going to result in me saying things that are ugly without the purpose of furthering discussion, just for the sake of being ugly. That's not going to help anything...
Amiton.
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p.s. A little history trivia for ya. 6 states of the U.S. BELONGED to Mexico you might know them as California, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, Arizona, and Utah were all part of Mexico until they were STOLEN. So this counrty is a part us.
Attitudes like that make me weary of paying for all this crap, when illegal immigrants don't even appreciate it
. Guess what? You are on OUR LAND. We don't care if it was yours 120+ years ago, you lost parts of it in a war and parts in negotiations, get over it.I encourage everyone to see this: http://media.putfile.com/AztlanRising
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Boy, do I hate people.
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People don't like to be meddled with. We tell them what to do, what to think, don't run, don't walk. We're in their homes and in their heads and we haven't the right. We're meddlesome.
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Originally posted by Amiton:
I think I'm going to hush for a while now.
I hope you don't, you argue your points very well and are currently speaking for a lot of people, myself included.
It's weird how divided people are on this issue; it doesn't seem to be going down the usual liberal/conservative line. A lot of liberals support illegal immigrants, a lot of them don't because they disagree with the practice of illegal immigration in general (no matter how nice and hard-working the illegal immigrant next door may be).
Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.
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Originally posted by Amiton:
I think I'm going to hush for a while now.
I hope you don't, you argue your points very well and are currently speaking for a lot of people, myself included.
It's weird how divided people are on this issue; it doesn't seem to be going down the usual liberal/conservative line. A lot of liberals support illegal immigrants, a lot of them don't because they disagree with the practice of illegal immigration in general (no matter how nice and hard-working the illegal immigrant next door may be).
Thanks for the encouragement, Khyron. I do appreciate it, but at the same time this is a serious push-button topic. Even things that are not said out of anger and animosity can hurt people. I imagine that FallenAngel was probably less than happy with what I had to say, and it probably hurt her feelings to have that said, especially directly to her. I don't particularly like being that kind of person. Unfortunately for me, I guess, I ended up having fairly passionate views about this topic and after so long I feel compelled to make my voice be heard. When those times arise, though, I do my best to behave myself and stay on topic and be clear and fair with what I have to say.
At the same time, I hate to see posts like Lev's, not necessarily because they're wrong or that they're not entitled to have that opinion, but because it comes across in such a hostile, hateful way, especially on message boards. Especially in direct agression toward another browncoat. That sucks. I like it in here, and except for a few minor squabbles here and there (most notably here in the RW forums, where it's a little more expected) people try to conform to the nice idyllic utopia we try to tell ourselves can happen in the real world if we just try hard enough.
There's good and there's bad, I suppose, I just don't like it when I feel like I'm contributing to the ugly...
Amiton.
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I'll toss my opinion in to the mix. I have no problems with people coming to this county, LEGALLY. The problem that I have is that those who have come to America illegaly are demanding that they not be prosecuted for commiting federal offences and even being given amnesty. I realize America is a nation of immigrants, but a nation can not be built on the premise that simply because a group is loud they should be given their way. The illegal immigrant community is making loud protests claiming that they are America. This assertion discounts the contributions of others. My ancestors came to this county in the 1600s on the second ship bound from England, they fought in the Amarican Revolution, the Civil War, World War Two, Korea and Vietnam, all the branches of my family came to this country leagally and became productive members of the American Culture. A second area of contention that I have against many illegal immigrants is their resistance to the natural process of assimilation that all other immigrant groups have gone through. Throughout American history when an immigrant came to this county, he or she was expected to learn English and exist within American culture. Now many illegal immigrants are demanding that they not only be given amnesty but the right to exist almost as a seperate country from the US. I believe that the US should take the dual actions of tightening immigration enforcement and declaring English the National Language.
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I understand everyones thoughts, and I agree, I do not see how thousands can take to the streets and demand rights when their presence is illegal to begin with. I was even more outraged when a CNN special interviewed illegal immigrants in this country in Georgia. How a family using a tourist visa to see Disneyland decided to remain and go into hiding. Yes the father works 16 hour days, but what is more troubling.. his kids are going to school, his son graduated from high school in Georgia and now attends college.. because of his grades he receives scholarships.. I wonder how many legal citizens were knocked out of eligibility because of his approval for such scholarships.. and these are tax payer funded. Saddly, the school system does not see it as a crime. I wonder since I have friends as educators, and they agree, allowing illegal children into our education system brings down the academic bar, more time focusing in english and other academics since the Mexican education if it really exsists does not compare. How many of our children are left out or pushed out. Is there a link between the lower SAT scores and High School graduate apptitude tests?
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