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Who's 'the man'?

POSTED BY: thawiz1
UPDATED: Wednesday, May 3, 2006 16:29
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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 1:08 PM

It was NOT a general complaint to the fans, it was a direct response to the one person coming back with a "one-liner" dismissal.

I just wanna do all I can to help / make it happen. Is that disrespectful? I find it more disrespectful that you also dismiss my efforts in trying to do something about it. :(

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 1:48 PM

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Originally posted by thawiz1:
It was NOT a general complaint to the fans, it was a direct response to the one person coming back with a "one-liner" dismissal.

I just wanna do all I can to help / make it happen. Is that disrespectful? I find it more disrespectful that you also dismiss my efforts in trying to do something about it. :(



Your zeal is admirable, thawiz1. I think the disrespect that's being referred to is that you're at least insinuating that the fanbase here is less interested in doing something than you are.

Many of the people on this site have been here since 2002. Some of them here, including Haken, the site administrator, were here before Firefly even aired. Yes, this website was set up for Firefly fans (or flans, if you will) before the show made its debut.

The *exact* question you are asking has been asked repeatedly since the show was cancelled. There never has once been a decisive answer. Joss has been asked at public appearances. The BDHs have been asked at public appearances and in interviews. Innumerous letter writing campaigns have been launched (and I won't even talk about the petitions).

The closest thing that you're going to get as an honest answer is that we don't know, and it's not from a lack of effort to find out. If you want somewhere to start, then the concensus as far as I'm aware is this: Fox Studios (not to be confused with the Fox network) has the proper rights to the show, and will continue to do so for some undetermined years to come (although speculation also says until 2009). All of the original executives associated with cancelling Firefly at the Fox network have moved on, from what I understand. The SciFi channel (a Universal Studios affiliate property) has the American *re*broadcast rights, but not the rights to create new content. Universal has the new content creation rights for major motion picture distribution.

I don't think any names have been associated with those rights packages, and executives change anyway. I can't guarantee you that any of the above information is correct, but if you have connections in front of and behind the camera at a major network, then that should be more than adequate as a starting point for you to exploit those connections and find out the specific answers to the question that you asked. And hey, if you find out, then feel free to share with the rest of us.

Amiton.

P.S. - I haven't ever had any direct dealings with them, but you might be able to get some information from Ace Underhill over at BrowncoatsRiseAgain.com (I think that's the URL). He's apparently somewhere in negotiations to try to secure the rights legally and get Firefly back on the air or some such in some way or another. As usual, the specific details are a bit fuzzy in my brain. Take it all with a grain of salt (and a slice of lemon and a shot of tequila).

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 1:56 PM

The "rights" are owned by a corporation, not a person. While there would be a final decision maker - THE DECIDER - if you will, you would have to get the agreement of all the people that advise that person.

If you feel you can this information faster than us lazy American fans, have at it.


edit: Sorry about the tone. I get really annoyed when people respond to perfectly innocent posts with a snotty attitude. I refer to your response to CoPilot.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 1:59 PM

Right. Hello, I'm the owner of the official movie fanbase site. These are not, however, answers sponsored by any powers that be.

Television rights: for new episodes, 20th Century Fox own these.

For existing episodes on CABLE, Sci-Fi has the exclusive rerun rights.

For motion pictures, Universal Pictures own the rights to the "Serenity" franchise. They hold a 3 picture deal.

Cast: None of the cast are held under TV contract. That expired in January 2003. For motion pictures, the cast are held under a limited time contract, for 3 pictures. This includes the entire cast (including Alan and Ron).

Book rights: Titan owned and released two official movie tie in products. Additionally, 2 more Serenity books are due some time, probably next year.

Video game rights: Universal Licensing LLC is handling. Only interested business parties should contact.

"The man": he doesn't exist. Universal executives make the final call, and they answer to the parties which own Universal. "Serenity" was largely supported at Universal by executive Mary Parent, however she has now left that position at the company.

Ace Underhill: a guy with that name briefly appeared saying he was attempting to aquire the TV and cast contracts. He didn't succeed.

Let me know if you have any questions. If you want to make it profitable to make another you, you have to show executives it's actually profitable. It's all about money. Companies where staff members are there to make money won't make a movie which looses money.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 2:53 PM

Thanks, Gossi.

That was a lot more coherent, and likely substantially more effective than my post =p I figured someone would eventually get around to making a more authoritative post, but I wanted to at least get thawiz1 something to work with to at least settle things down some and offer a framework to build off of.

Thanks again.

Amiton.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2006 4:29 PM

Who is the man?

Benjamin

(Thats what I say to my 19 month old son, anyways)



Back to the conversation at hand.....

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