IMMIGRATION
POSTED BY: impression
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 2, 2006 20:49
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
P.S. Are you aware that gas prices jumped up!!! I had to pay $3.00 a gallon!!!! OMG!!! This is what I get for not paying attention to the news!!!!
A Stunted River
It's $3.39 per gallon for regular down here in San Diego. Last week, it jumped by something like 17 cents in three hours (no I'm not kidding. the local news had ongoing hourly coverage of the price changes).
Also down here, we were severely shorthanded at work. Businesses, schools, and other places are all at least a little shorthanded. At the local high school today, it averaged 19 students per classroom absent.
The goal of this protest is to show us all what the economy would be like if immigrants didn't show up for work. As far as I'm concerned, this is definitely one of the stupidest things the pro-immigration activists have ever done. Not only has it been innefective, but it has sent the wrong message. Of all the millions they are trying to convince, something like 15% will probably get it and agree, 25%won't give a
, and 60% will just be really pissed off. Most people see that they are intentionally trying to hurt the economy. As far as I know, that isn't how you ingratiate yourself with folks (but, you know, that's just me). You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.
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$3.39 a gallon? What is driving up the gas prices?
I guess they feel that if they don't attempt to rock our boats, we won't listen....they may have a point there, but I really don't particularly enjoy sitting here in traffic, so that alone is pissing me off even though I understand their cause. But we have to look at the insanity part of all of this...Illegal immigrants are "demanding" their rights! They must pick another way of approaching this issue without pissing everyone off.
River
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Why do we consistently take these stories as they are framed by the media? All of a sudden illegal immigration is the new scourge because the media says so, and its "those damned illegals who are ignoring our laws and have no respect for our system."
Quit taking the bait. If you actually cared about this issue, you wouldn't be looking for the little guys to pin it on. The problem is big companies are benefitting from this...big companies are benefitting from people coming across the border, which is why the government they fund has no interest in doing anything real about it. Do you think the companies care if you start convicting illegals on felonies? They could give a rats ass. There will be more where that came from.
Did illegalizing drugs stop that traffic? Nope. In fact, the drug trade is way more profitable than it was before it was a crime, and more people are addicted to drugs.
You just don't stop something which there is a demand for. If there's a demand, people will fill it. So, if you want to stop illegal immigration, quit being angry at the other half of the victims, and start being angry at our government for not holding these companies accountable for dangling this carrot on our side of the border.
You want to improve our standard of living? Give those illegals who are already here some rights, so that they are not a preferable choice to American citizens when it comes to hiring.
I don't understand why we constantly keep running around in the same circles on this. We all agree. Illegal immigration is a problem. Do you want to fix the problem or do you want to find a scapegoat for it?
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I actually think that people are shocked by how many of these illegals there really are here.
Who are you talking too?
River
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
$3.39 a gallon? What is driving up the gas prices?
Over here in the UK prices recently topped £1 a LITRE, which is over £3.78 0r ~$6.83 per US Gallon. When you're paying that much talk to me, cause your fuel prices sound pretty damn cheap to me
.Poor Oil companies though, they are having a rough old time of it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4672716.stm
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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I found Gas prices this on the net based on the US dollar:
UK TEESIDE $5.64
HONG KONG HONG KONG $5.62
UK MILFORD HAVEN $5.56
UK READING $5.56
UK NORWICH $5.54
GERMANY FRANKFURT $5.29
DENMARK COPENHAGEN $5.08
NORWAY STAVANGER $5.07
NORWAY OSLO $4.93
ITALY ROME $4.86
TURKEY ISTANBUL $4.85
PORTUGAL LISBON $4.80
KOREA SEOUL $4.71
SWITZERLAND GENEVA $4.56
KOREA KOJE/OKPO $4.53
AUSTRIA VIENNA $4.50
CROATIA ZAGREB $4.32
JAPAN TOKYO $3.84
AUSTRALIA SYDNEY $2.63
CAMBODIA PHNOM PENH $2.57
TAIWAN TAIPEI $2.47
GEORGIA TBILISI $2.31
LAOS VIENTIANE $1.66
THAILAND BANGKOK $1.60
CHINA TIANJIN $1.54
CHINA SHANGHAI $1.48
RUSSIA MOSCOW $1.45
KAZAKHSTAN ALMATY $1.36
KAZAKHSTAN ATYRAU $1.35
TAJIKISTAN DUSHANBE $1.32
AZERBAIJAN BAKU $1.15
VENEZUELA CARACAS $0.14
I guess Venezuela is the place to be for gas prices.
Why the hit and run Civilian?
Anyway. The demonstrators are heading for the federal building on 4th Ave. Its a sea of humanity, and I'll say it again...its rush hour here right now, and people here are pissed. I hope no one decides to start any trouble. I also hear that the numbers are 20 to 25,000.
This is a traffic nightmare!
River
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:
Originally posted by RiveR6213:
$3.39 a gallon? What is driving up the gas prices?
Over here in the UK prices recently topped £1 a LITRE, which is over £3.78 0r ~$6.83 per US Gallon. When you're paying that much talk to me, cause your fuel prices sound pretty damn cheap to me
Poor Oil companies though, they are having a rough old time of it:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4672716.stm
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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Europe has always had higher gas prices because of the inaccesability of oil in the region. That's why most Europeans drive (by American standards) incredibly small and efficient cars. In america, however, folks don't think long term. That's why we have SUVs and muscle cars. For Americans, $3.39 per gallon is pretty damn expensive considering that many have to refuel twice a week or more. In the end, this could be a positive thing though, spurring the developement of cheaper hybrids and/or alternative sources of fuel.
You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.
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I'm willing to bet though that while European gas prices are higher than the U.S.'s, their real wages are higher than the U.S.'s also. You have top take that into account when translating funds.
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It's May Day, which is also International Worker's Day.
Today is the "Day Without an Immigrant". Immigrants (both legal and illegal) and their supporters were supposed to skip work/class today.
Results have been interesting.
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A lot of things in Europe parallel the U.S. prices when it gets broken down, so the wage argument doesn't necessarily hold true. It's just a really sucky exchange rate at the moment. For instance if something is a dollar here, it's often a euro in a euro using country or a pound in the UK. The exception of course being the large cities (London, Paris, Dublin, etc) where everything is a billion times more expensive.
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