Why Wash is 100% alive and mostly well.
POSTED BY: pastorbadger
UPDATED: Thursday, November 22, 2007 09:57
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I vote F) If Wash is brought back in a sequel, I will not only not watch it, but I will destroy every other piece of Firefly merchandise I own. Goddamnit, this is supposed to be a show with meaning and integrity, not where they just make up implausible shit.
Oh yes, you all are reminding me of the people who believe Elvis is alive.
"MY NAME IS JAYNE, ya damn moonbrain! Now yer gonna DIE!!"
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Originally posted by evilphoenix:
I vote F) If Wash is brought back in a sequel, I will not only not watch it, but I will destroy every other piece of Firefly merchandise I own. Goddamnit, this is supposed to be a show with meaning and integrity, not where they just make up implausible shit.
Oh yes, you all are reminding me of the people who believe Elvis is alive.
"MY NAME IS JAYNE, ya damn moonbrain! Now yer gonna DIE!!"
Well, I see someone's had their prescription of cranky pills recently refilled.
You should know that shit, as you so eloquently put it, is never implausable. If fact, it's quite inevitable.
And living on a spaceship is so emanently plausable, after all.
Besides, Elvis is sharing a condo in Oregon with Salmund Rushdi & Bigfoot. Sadly, neither has a taste for banana & peanut butter sandwitches.
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LadyKnight wrote:
Was reading the thread...and about halfway through...something occured to me...
Shortly after everybody left, feds vs. Reavers on Serenity. Somebody (fed) shot a coolant pipe somewhere (engene room). Freezing white stuff came out, Froze the whole ship over, including Wash...who, while dead, had his nural functions frozen in the four minutes before they would have stopped.
...OMG, are you serious? i so have to check that part out agan because that could seriously work and add to the whole plausibility of bringing wash back. (i vote C btw) that is so shiny. so it was serenity's coolant pipe, or an allience ships's coolant pipe? i need specifics if i'm gonna find this cause i'm so out of it when looking for something like this
lolQuote:
(For the record, I'm getting the majority of this from the Artemis Fowl books...Dear God, I just compared Wash to Butler)
LOL!!! omg, you made me seriously laugh out loud when i saw this. *virtual high five*, And if you take away the hawaii shirt, the dinosaurs, the not being a hulking giant who loves guns (that would be jayne
) and...you know...the pilot thing on a spaceship 500 years in the future...maybe wash COULD be compared to Butler 
lolkeep flyin'.
EngineAngel
PS: for all those who are ragging on PB and totally discounting all the facts, please look at them all (i know i know, SUCH a long thread). it is totally within your rights to think that wash isn't alive still. hell, he might not be. i don't want to think that he's not, but it's possible he's soared for the last time. HOWEVER, it is still plausible, given all the reasons in this thread, that he very much could be alive. It just irks me that some people don't even pay attention to what other people say earlier in the thread or what they say to counter some points (even a couple of posts before theirs), especailly when they haven't looked at all the facts anyways and are just bringing up old things again, making the thread even longer and causing annoyance for everybody. just saying. you should look at all sides of a matter and be informed before you discount it. (and yes, i KNOW i'm obssessed with a verse that ain't real (it's what i tell my psychiatrist each week
), and maybe i'm taking everything a tad too seriously, but really guys, i have no life hee hee)..... and....you mean....Elvis ISN'T alive?? oh man! you just totally turned my whole world upside down!!
Wash, you were the best gorram pilot in the Verse. Rest in peace...(and then come back again!!)
One day.
One mission.
One army of Browncoats.
On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.
http://serenityjune23rd.com/
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(sorry about the english, it's not my main lenguage)
1) I do believe wash is dead, we'll still have to see tho, with joss you never know.
2)About the resucitation thingy. I've read lots of stuff about "after a few mins his brain would be dead"etc etc.
-You can easily scoop and replace any internal organ with firefly's medicine (as we saw in the message)
-Alliance can play with ppl brain to a level of altering its capabilities (as they did with river)
Problem resucitating someone nowadays, is that once the brain loses oxygen etc, cells start to die, so after not many minutes you get brain damage, and eventualy total brain death. But the brain is still there, the brain cells are still there, substances, etc. Where am i going with this?, if you could (asumming this is sci-fi, in star trek for example this would be no biggy) work with neural patchs as easy as we fix a broken bone nowadays, they could just fix a brain which has been "dead" for much longer, even replacing damaged neurones for cloned copies would be "possible".
In the end, it's sci-fi, alliance has bad ass technology, and if joss wants to throw Wash into a bacta tank and resucitate him he will just do it. I really doubt it tho, unless joss pulls out of his sleeve any good reason for the alliance to grab and save him secretly.
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Originally posted by KellyofLuthien:
when even his Captain and his own wife had already decided he was dead.
Important point that.
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Originally posted by KellyofLuthien:
Also, Joss is not fond of cliches
*cough* Book's final words *cough*
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Originally posted by Storymark:
And those series all involved ressurrection of some form, aliens and supernatural powers to varying degrees. All things which Joss has sworn off from the 'verse.
*cough* River *cough*
Off to find some syrup, brb.
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Originally posted by Leebo:
Y'all are forgetting Reavers don't eat dead bodies. Recall in the very beginning of the movie Mal shoots the guy two reavers are holding and they throw the dead man down in disgust. Mal just denied them their meal in that case, so there's no reason for the reavers to chew on Wash or Mr. Universe post mortem.
Also, all those dead folk on Miranda not eaten because the reavers want their Soylent Green to be spry. That said, when the going gets hungry I'm guessing they'll resort to dead meat.
Serenity 2
Wash
Tada!
Flans
Telephone pole!
Wash
'tis but a scratch, it was just a flesh wound!
Wash lasered into tiny bits (to be resurrected on the 3rd movie).
--
I am Jack's meds kickin' in.
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Forgive me if this has come up before. I've tried to read all of the thread, but it's too gorram long - I may have missed a post or two. Anyway, my personal views on this topic aside, here's a quote that should not be ignored:
"... When you have an ensemble, you think about what people are going to take away with them at the end of the movie, and you don't think about the second movie until you've made the first one. And that's just a very strict rule with me. By the way, there's a strong possibility that everybody would return for a sequel. How is that possible? Not my usual way - there are no amulets to be had for love or money. But there's every chance you could see these characters again. ..." (Joss Whedon in: Serenity - the Official Visual Companion, p. 36)
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My theory on why Wash is alive
Wash appeared to die
but look at the word 'Wash'
An anagram of 'Wash' is 'Shaw'
'Shaw' as in 'George Bernard Shaw' the Irish Playwright.
G.B. Shaws plays connection :
G.B Shaws' play 'Arms and the Man' is set during the 1885 Serbo-Bulgarian War. A young woman who is engaged to a war hero she idolises (Zoes dedication to Mal???)Then a Serbian soldier comes to her room and begs her to hide him. She doesnot think much of him, espcially because he carries chocolate not guns or ammo. She thinks him a acoward (Zoes first impression of Wash ??)
Throughout the play she realised that he soldier is noble and renounces her engagement and now loves the soldier. (Zoe and Wash???)
And the big connection -
Another of G.B Shaws plays - 'The Devil's Disciple' tells the tale of an American hero during the Revolutionary War. In the end the hero is about to be hanged but is saved at the last minute. Also the Americans rejoice and the British leave knowing they cannot win.
(Wash about to die but doenst somehow and the Alliance go away at the end .... ?)
Coincidence? You decide ....
Sorry I was bored 
One day.
One mission.
One army of Browncoats.
On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.
http://serenityjune23rd.com/
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allrighty then
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
-try it out, I dare you
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Coupla things I would like to point out... yes the Revers in Serenity (the pilot, not the movie) had an EMP weapon... well, not really a weapon so much as an Electro Magnetic Grapple... NOT an EMP gun... second, Book is definatly dead... third, Revers WOULD NOT have a pretty silver n' blue ship, it wouldda been all scared, pitted and blackend jagged metal with loverly crimson red BLOOD all over it, if not a few dozen thin hood ornament type dudes on it... and the ship wouldda also been venting black smoke for it's not operating with core contanment, and FINAL... your theory kicks ASS!!! welcome to the crew bud... *hands over a brow duster*
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Did anyone mention that Joss brought back Colossus from a very permanent death in Astonishing X-Men? Sure, it's a Marvel Comic, but he's obviously not above it.
(Sorry, didn't have time to read all the posts)
The only way I could see this working emotionally would be if Wash's resurrection actually made things worse for the crew. Like he sold out Simon and River in exchange for his continued life. There is no way anyone would buy it if it wasn't important to the story.
I want to believe...
sprunking!
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