US ANTHEM IN SPANISH
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Hi all,
I was curious about your opinion on this.
My feeling is that they aren't so much singing the US Anthem as they are making a political statement. And that's fine. But it also feels like a particularly foolish thing to do.
In the midst of a political debate where you are trying to convince people that you wish to embrace the United States and the American Dream... Along comes the US Anthem in Spanish.
I don't think that's going to win converts where they are needed. Instead, I think the company releasing the record will profit from it, and the cause they claim to support will suffer for it.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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I'm really not seeing the problem...
In Canada where I live we have two official languages English and French... and our anthem reflects that...
also you can easily do business in Mandarin, or German, or Russian or whatever... multi-ligualism is
a positive thing...
In Europe it is much the same, the Swiss for example
have four offical languages...
Are you saying Americans look down on people who speak Spanish, or Americans simply are opposed to diversity.....
" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "
The Killers
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html
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Gino, don't miss my point.
There are those who oppose immigration reform, and the forgiving of existing illegal immigrants. Some of these people see illegal immigrants as ungrateful moochers who don't respect the country. It's an argument of economics, pride, comfort, racism, and class superiority.
And right now, just as the immigrant reform people are fighting the good fight, you take the US Anthem and do it in Spanish.
There are things you just don't do when you're trying to win support. This is probably one of them.
To some Americans, particularly the ones whose opinions they need to change, this is a big 'Fcuk Yuo' which is not the message you want to convey when you're trying to get a vote.
Try to imagine this scenario:
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You're a middle class american with a handful of generations history in the states. You feel like a 'real american' by virtue of having a great grandfather who was a citizen. Your unemployed son can't find a job. He isn't looking hard enough, or maybe he's not willing to stoop to doing some of the jobs he could get. It's easier to blame the immigrants. You get in your car and drive down the street, and some of the billboards are in a foreign language. Damn immigrants are forcing changes on the country. All the Billboards used to be in English. You go to Mcdonalds, and the kid talking through the speaker at the drive through barely speaks English. You muddle through an order, and pick it up, only to find that it's not what you wanted. Damn immigrants. Why do they hire an immigrant who can't speak English when my son doesn't have a job? Then you drive down the street and come to a stop light. A low-rider with hydraulics pulls up next to you, and it's blasting the American Anthem in Spanish, with overture commentary about immigration reform. Damn Immigrants! Ruin our very own Anthem! Fcuk Yuo when it comes time to vote!
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You don't have to be this man, but you do have to understand him if you're ever going to change him.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Seems pretty simple to me. If you want to become a citizen of a country you should speak it's official language (or at least one of them) and help promote the speaking of same.
I dont remember hearing "God save the Queen" sung in Hindi or Urdu, but I could be wrong (usually am).
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Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Seems pretty simple to me. If you want to become a citizen of a country you should speak it's official language (or at least one of them) and help promote the speaking of same.
I dont remember hearing "God save the Queen" sung in Hindi or Urdu, but I could be wrong (usually am).
No, but all council rules and documents are printed in just about every language under the sun, which doesn't make all that much sense, considering this is an English speaking country
...More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.
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I think some people in the UK would be delighted to see immigrants singing their love and patriotism for their adopted country.
The people that object to this are the sort that objected fifty years ago to the anthem being sung in public by black people. When a fifth of your population speaks a language, what did you expect to happen?
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I don’t have a problem with people singing the Anthem in any language they want, but don’t make up an anthem in a different language and expect me to believe you’re singing the American Anthem, because it’s not. They changed the words to the Anthem to reflect a political statement; ergo it is not the America Anthem, but some parody or imitation of it. It may or may not be just as good depending on your point of view, but I agree with you that this is not presenting the argument of solidarity by people who want to become part of this country, rather it is a divisive and confrontational stunt to slap the face of Americans. Effectively that is how this will be interpreted by many Americans, and I suspect that many people who are doing this understand that. They enter illegally; they wave a foreign flag and they sing a foreign anthem, and effectively the political statement that some are making, and how it is likely to be perceived by many Americans, is that they are entering the country as invaders. Whatever is actually going on, this seems to be the political statement that some want to make, and that would seem to be counterproductive to their goals.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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I, personally, don't really care what they do with the anthem. But, I agree with Finn that a hell of a lot of peole are going to be
about it. That really wasn't the smartest move they've (the pro-immigration folks) ever made.
You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.
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Which national side do they cheer at Baseball?
Fletch (Americanising Tebbitism for the Colonials)
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One thing I would like to mention about the Canada example of multilingualism in action. In Canada, when the nation was formed, almost the entire population of the province of Quebec spoke only French. Contrast to America where those who spoke spanish only, came from other countries and the vast majority of those born in America speak English as their first language or the language they speak in most life outside the home.
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