Joss' remarks on Inara in Serenity commentary (spoiler for commentary)

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GUNSLINGINBROWNCOAT

Thursday, December 11, 2003 2:17 AM

Okie dokie, for those of you who have the DVD and have at least listened to Joss and Nathan's commentary on Serenity, I wonder if the comments by the two during Inara's "needle" scene have perplexed anyone besides me.

This is the scene where Serenity is passing the Reaver ship and we're being showed the crews reactions as Mal announces it on the intercom. Inara is in her shuttle, and she opens a little ornate box which has a hypodermic needle in it. Joss remarks on how during this scene people are supposed to think it's a companion suicide kit or something, but he goes on to say that he had other plans for it and that it's appearance in this episode might've been foreshadowing. (Presumably this means this particular needle is not connected to the immunization kits she gives to Simon, these seem different since they're wrapped in foil or something anyways, not kept in a nice box)

Joss refuses to comment further on how this relates into his plans for Inara since it would take up too much commentary time or something, but Nathan heckles him about it and finally decides to explain it himself. He whispers "she's a junkie" and the scenes move on and it's left at that.

So wow, Inara was gonna be addicted to high profile drugs later on or something? Maybe Nathan's just pulling this out of his...well, who knows. It makes sense, she has so much privacy in the shuttle that the others might not know. Maybe if the Reavers were going to board she was gonna have one last hit? If Mal caught her later in the series or somesuch he might have taken it upon himself to help her and further their romance or something.

Another thing, they remark on how Jayne obviously has a "crush" on Kaylee because of his teasing remarks and his huddling outside the infirmary window. This seems exaggerated to me, I just took it as Jayne worrying about her as a friend, but he likes her? I can't see them together anyways...

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SUCCATASH

Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:57 AM

That's really interesting. I'm starting to think that if Firefly had continued for several seasons, Jayne and Kaylee would be together and Simon and River would be jammin sex too because it turned out River is not really his sister. She's a genetic experiment, they killed his real sister.

KRIS

Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:47 AM

Re: Kaylee + Jayne

Despite the age difference (and they could really play with how big a gap, since Adam Baldwin doesn't exactly look his 41 years), I can see how a Kaylee/Jayne pairing would work...or at least the two having a one-nighter. They're both open and casual about their lustfulness, confined to a ship that sometimes doesn't see a planet for weeks (months?). Could happen.

Re: A Simon/River pairing possible?

Even if she did turn out to be a genetic experiment and not his real sister, she'd still be a clone of some sort, so it'd still be incest. And even if they somehow still got around it by saying that she was simply some construct that was given plastic surgery to look like his sister...Well, Simon remembers what his sister looked like before she was taken to the academy, so it'd still be gross on his part to be attracted to someone who looks like her.

As far as Inara being a junkie. Hmm...Storyline might've had potential, but I liked the bit with the needle in "Serenity" better when I was sure that it was a suicide drug.

KOBAYASHI

Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:18 AM

They also commented in the commentary about some being up with Inara when Simon was talking about it being his birthday. I got a Luke/Leia vibe out of it. Anybody else pick up on this?

SERGEANTX

Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:45 AM

I took Nathan's 'junkie' comment as a joke. I'd guess Joss had something a bit more dramatic in mind. Maybe it was some kind of drug that would enhance certain secret companion abilities or training. We've seen glimpses of her in near fight situations before. Think OMR and HOG. Its not beyond imagining that, with said enhancement, she could become a formidable opponent in a fight. Someday maybe Inara and River will be called on to save the day through less conventional means than we've seen thus far.

Also, I've been preachin the Jayne/Kaylee thing since the beginning. I'm not sure it will happen, but I do think Jayne has crush like feelings for her. Even as late in the season as 'Trash' we see that glint in his eyes when he watches her. Could just be admiration, but I think he adores her and is just too emotionally immature to do anything about it. But I don't see any indication Kaylee is interested in him.

SergeantX

"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith

BLUEHOOT

Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:06 AM

The "she's a Junkie" part I believe was meant to be taken lightly, as a joke...he sounded sarcastic and didnt seem to really mean it. And the thing was that I thought he had said that people werent supposed to believe it was a suicide kit, that's just what they happened to believe and it happened to work for that episode.

Also, if Joss says that Jayne has a little bit of a crush on Kaylee, then it must be true. After all, Firefly is his creation...lol

SAMUS

Thursday, December 11, 2003 7:50 AM

Re: Jayne crush on Kaylee

I asked this question in a thread the other day, and a few people poo-pooed the idea.

I feel a tad vindicated.

MELEAUX

Thursday, December 11, 2003 3:30 PM

Okay,
Jayne may have a crush on Kaylee but c'mon... EVERYBODY has a crush on Kaylee. Even me and I am the vey heterosexual mother of five. Jayne and Kaylee?.... Ewwww. and Simon and River?... Ewwwwyeer!

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CHANNAIN

Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:23 PM

On the needle business, I think they're just trying to rile folks about something that isn't even there. That whole thing was probably just a poorly executed attempt at humor. And Nathan's "She's a druggie" comment was total and complete sarcasm.

On Jayne and Kaylee, I'd have to echo Meleaux. Kaylee appeals to everybody, even those of us who don't swing that way. I mean watching her eat the strawberry? Please! I think it's safe to say everybody went googly over Kaylee from that moment on.

In the deleted scene from Serenity, Book commented on how "Kaylee has a heart for everyone." That's not a direct quote, but it's close. In the same episode, Inara said, "Kaylee is very dear to all of us." In the commentary, Joss and Nathan couldn't say enough about how Kaylee is the purest spirit in the entire crew, and everyone responds to that in their own fashion. Jayne isn't always sure how to handle that kind of sincerity from anyone, so his response to her can be callous.

I've always seen Jayne and Kaylee as having a brother/sister relationship. In Bushwacked, he took a verbal jab at her, she punched him in the shoulder - that's textbook sibling behavior. My brother Jay and I do that all the time. In OMR Jayne said, "That's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth." Kaylee closed her eyes and you could see her thinking, "Find a happy place...find a happy place...FIND A HAPPY PLACE." That indicates to me that although she likes him the way she likes everybody, there isn't a romantic attraction there. I'm thinking Kaylee's a Libra...

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Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:32 PM

Regarding Inara's syringe:

In "Serenity", remember the comment Inara's client made about her "Clock being sped up"? It is possible that it may have been a drug to do just that, if suicide was not an option for whatever the reason. Then again it may have been a way to commit suicide. We never did get much of an explanation of Companion "training".

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