Jayne, Wash & The War

POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 04:50
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SHINYFAB

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 5:47 PM

I am actually rather curious as to how Wash would have avoided being used as a pilot in the Alliance military. Most likely flight school was a military/government operation much like it is today. Unless there's something we didn't get to hear, which is possible, I don't think Wash or his family would have had the money to send him to a privately owned school. He most likely would have been Alliance military. But then that opens up even more questions. Like how long was he in? How did he get out? After all. His skills as a pilot would have made him a huge asset to the Alliance. And not one they would want to let go. If it was an Alliance flight school there is a good probability he would have been flying for the Alliance in the war. Its curious how he ended working w/ Browncoat thieves. Just my thought.

Jayne - I find him relatively easy to figure out. He would have been doing the same thing he always has. Probably stealing and making general mayhem.

Bwah!

NAUGHTYMAN

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:19 PM

Hey CantonHeroine!
Love your Thylacine Serenity logo.The Marsupial Wolf is the coolest!Also AWESOME artwork!

"Come a day there won't be room for naughty men like us to slip about at all"

LILKRISTY

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 7:25 PM

The only problem I see with Wash flying cargo ships away from the action is that he's so good. They stick the average pilots with the easy cargo runs and shuttle missions. The good pilots go to combat missions.

If he's in flight school then he's not ready for combat, no matter how good he is. But hey maybe you could chalk it up the Alliance stupidity in not realizing how good Wash was.

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If it was an Alliance flight school there is a good probability he would have been flying for the Alliance in the war. Its curious how he ended working w/ Browncoat thieves. Just my thought.

I am assuming that flight school would have been a military thing. I agree that Wash's family wouldn't be able to afford private flight school. Maybe at the end of the war the Alliance didn't need all their pilots, the evil rebels being suppressed and all, so, being the caring organization they are, cut the excess pilots loose leaving them well-trained, but without respectable jobs. And being such a good pilot, with such a love for flying Wash went looking for a challenge. He figured the most challenging flying would come in crime. then he happened to find a boat with potential for some real maneuverability and a hot first mate so he signed on.

AERIN

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:06 PM

I think Wash did some type of flying during the war and I could easily imagine the Alliance underestimating his skills. Especially if he's from some ho-hum mining planet. Wash is great at eluding pursuit, but we don't have any indication he knows how to be the aggressor, whether that means dog fights or dropping bombs. It also think it doesn't suit his personality. Troop transport could be another possibility. You wouldn't want to engage enemy fire while packed to the hull with the Alliance's finest, but knowing evasive manuvers would be necessary.

I think the flight school theory is also sound. Personally, I like a story where Wash did some type of flying for the Alliance but wasn't a killer. That way there's still room for the occassional tiff with Zoe over his old occupation, but it's nothing really serious. I guess I just don't want Wash to have a dark side.

LILKRISTY

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:57 PM

I don't see Wash having a dark side either. I agree that I'm not sure Wash would be a good agressor, but that's not the only type of mission where a pilot might see combat.

I could totally see Wash in a job much like a Huey pilot in Vietnam. They delivered troops directly to the battlefield, resupplying those troops and taking out wounded and taking them out of hairy situations. I think that'd fit his personality and flying style.

But I don't see Zoe being ok with that level of invlovment in a man she'd work with, let alone marry. I also doubt Mal'd hire him with that past.

Then again maybe he was a private pilot during the war. He could have worked for company as a transport pilot. In a multi planet 'verse the military wouldn't be the only employers of pilots, even during the war.

I also like the idea that he flew for the Alliance. It provides a good source of conflict between he and Zoe that thy'd have to overcome to get together.

Some good fic writer needs to read this thread and write a good back story for Wash now.

ZZETTA13

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 1:06 AM

Well guys I pretty much have to disagree with the military part of Washs flight tranning. I mean it may have been where he started but I don't think he finished there.

First I don't think Mal would stand to have an Alliance pilot flying "HIS" boat.

Secondly, Wash is so passive he just ain't millitary material. Just look at every group discussion where the act of violence is brought up. He is totally against any of it. Even when it came to the planed rescue operation during "SHINDIG". he states " It was very exciting. I was going to watch." He is really anti-violence.
Flying Serenity (and flying her extremely well) is his cup of tea.

As for his Home planet. I see it as a moderately wealthy industrial world. Midway between the core worlds and border planets. I feel like the powers that be in the verse keep their(laundry) rooms in the basement of their fine hotels. Therefore any smug,ugly and pollution producing planets and moons are nowhere near the beautiful core worlds.

Z

LILKRISTY

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:00 AM

I can see what you mean about Mal and lettign an Alliance pilot fly his boat. Thats why I like the flight school theory.

I have to disagree about Was being Anti-violence. I don't see him as passive. I think more than anything Wash is a smart ass who hides his serious side with jokes.

In War stories he jokes with Mal about never having been in a fire fight, but preparing for the rescue Wash handles the weapons with confidence some familarity (I know he's married to Zoe, but I don't use my husbands tools nearly that well KWIM) and during the rescure he moves in concert with Zoe and Jayne, shoots well, and dosen't have to be told what to do. He's done things like this before.

My point being Wash can handle himslef. It's not his "thing" but when nessessary he can do the violence thing.

RMMC

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:06 AM

I agree that I just don't see Wash being in anyway an agressor.

Maybe he flew one of the medical ships for the Alliance?

RMMC

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One mission.
One army of Browncaots.
On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.

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AERIN

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 2:39 AM

I like that idea, too. I think Mal could forgive Wash for helping the Alliance during the war (and allow him to pilot Serenity) as long as he wasn't too into the cause. If Wash was more or less conscripted to fly cargo or personnel Mal might just see him as another victim of the Alliance, running folks' lives. And I think Mal could forgive an Alliance medic pilot. I don't think Wash ever really supported Unification, but he doesn't show a strong opinion either way.

Of course, maybe Wash DID fly for the Alliance a wee bit, but either lied to Mal or deliberately failed to mention it. He could have told Zoe later and she might have decided not to tell Mal. That could make for a really interesting plot twist later. Mal finds out and gets mad at Wash. Zoe tries to stick up for her man and accidentally lets it slide that she knew. Now there's a rift in her relationship with the captain (more divided loyalty).

I agree that Wash's past could figure nicely in some fanfic!

VINTERDRAKEN

Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:06 AM

Well, Alan does say in the commentary that he would have wanted that his character flew that one mission, got downed and the shadowpuppet thing, and that he even tried to convince Joss of it. He also mentions that joss didnt bite on the idea and that he realised after a while that Wash hadnt participated at all in the war.
Saw the commentaries of war stories today.

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