Jayne, Wash & The War

POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 04:50
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GROOVYAL

Monday, April 24, 2006 4:10 PM

well i think, since jayne is a mercenary, he should have fought in the war, since its alot of work for someone who earnes his way with his gun...

wash seems to be from a core planet, he mentioned in mrs.reynolds that his planet had a very thick pollution, so i figure it was some highly industrialized core-planet, but he is too pacifistic to fight a war, always when it comes to decide who to shot he tries to bring in the point of not shooting anybody ("can we vote on this whole people murdering issue?")
he just spend most of his time on a core planet trying to avoid the war. Maybe the army wanted him to fight and he run away, would be an explanation to the fact why he has fallen in with some criminals...

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ZZETTA13

Monday, April 24, 2006 4:26 PM

AZHEA,yep I think Wash had nothing to do with the Alliance side.

DERANGEDMILK, I agree with your first post in part. The first part.We would have gotten to see some very detail background on both gentlemen.

Wash, a J/verse hippie?

"Zoe did say there was something about him that bothered her, when they first met." If I'd have thought about that statement at the time its a dead give-away for Wash & Zoe pairing up.

Just going by "Earth that is" history, with all the wars fought here there have been many ppl not involved in those hostilities and this is one itty bitty planet.

Out in the J/veres with all the worlds and moons I'm sure there were thousands upon thousands or millions of nonparticipants. Folks that wouldn't have cared even if Britney Spears had wow the BDW.

CANTONHEROINE

Monday, April 24, 2006 4:29 PM

Jayne says flat out in The Train Job that he "didn't fight in no war." At least, that's his excuse for not initially joining the Unification Day bar-fight. I don't think there was enough profit involved for him to join that cause, though he may see a post-BDM war somewhat differently.

As for Wash, I quite like Alan's Shadow Puppet theory.

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Monday, April 24, 2006 9:46 PM

Jayne: I suspect that Jayne used the distractions of the war to his advantage, namely that it would be a little easier to steal from places that were in the middle of a war. Addtionally I think that it is likely that there would be a shortage of mercenaries during the war as many would either join or be contracted by one side or the other, leaving those that didn't pick sides to pick up the slack.

Wash: Simple, he didn't feel like joining. It is unlikely that the Alliance or the Browncoats would have taken a majority of their people to war so Wash just didn't get drafted and didn't feel like joining up. Maybe he feels guilty maybe he doesn't (I lean towards doesn't) but either way he avoided the war.

ZZETTA13

Monday, April 24, 2006 10:52 PM

Ok everybody,DEEPGIRL187 has come up with an interesting post and has gotten me to scratching my head.

The Firefly pilot eps begins with the battle of Serenity Valley. Actually the end of the battle. I would say that its the last major battle and a decisive one in the war. Now six years later we see as pirates in space Mal with Zoey and Jayne.

Advance to the eps of Jaynestown where Jayne and Stich face-off. My question. How long has Jayne been a bandit? Certainly during the war for independence. This leads me to believe that Jayne never even considered becoming a soldier. He never really has aimed to misbehave. Heck it was as natural to him as putting on his shoes.

I am curious as to what became of Stich Hichen though. Any thoughts?

KAYLEESTHEGREATEST

Monday, April 24, 2006 11:00 PM

wash flew a ship during the war but it was downed and he spent the rest of the war entertaining the prisoners with shadow puppets

Someday the verse will spit in your soup but at least they gave you soup.
one day
one plan
one mission
one army of browncoats
june 23rd serenity day

-Our mission as browncoats is to make us known.

SAMEERTIA

Monday, April 24, 2006 11:21 PM

KayleeistheGreatest beat me to it.

The backstory for Wash is elaborated on in the commentary for the episode "The Message"- there was a huge backstory for him that didn't get told, and only got narrowed down to the one line, "What do you want me to do? Shadow puppets?"

I don't think we ever learn what side he actually flew for, but my bet is that he was flying for Alliance, and was probably non-combat: ie- supply ship.
A supply ship would be a big target for hungry Browncoats, I would think.

ZZETTA13

Monday, April 24, 2006 11:23 PM

KAYLEESTHEGREATEST,

In browncoat terminology thats called "Duck Soup" the Alliance better duck when that soup bowl comes flying back at'em.

Z

LILKRISTY

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 1:46 AM

I've always had this idea that maybe Wash was in flight school during the majority of the war.

I've also always figured he grew up on a very industerial planet near the core (the Our Mrs. Reynolds comment) that supplied the core with it's luxeries, but didn't really have a whole lot of them, like a factory town or maybe a coal mining town. Kind of like the tenaments in NYC during the industrial revolution.

Based of all that guessing and assuming, I'd figure that Wash wouldn't have cared greatly, or even at all, about the Alliance's cause. But like so many others stuck in barrios, tenaments, and other poor frequently oppressed neighborhoods, he saw the military in general and flying specifically as a way out. Having him in flight school keeps him out of the fighting. I just don't think Zoe could marry a man who activly fought for the army she describes in the cut scenes from Serenity (the pilot)

Jayne: Especially before crewing with Serenity, Jayne's a true merc. He's not risking his life for any cause but himself or his family. I see Jayne as moving around the border and rim pulling jobs and basically keeping away from any and all armies.

AERIN

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:51 AM

I agree with LilKristy about Wash's probable planet. I figure it wasn't a sophisticated core world or an untamed rim planet. Just caught somewhere in the middle. I could see Wash flying transport ships during the war - gotta have food, weapons, and all that other stuff. Support staff, which would explain why he's not so great with the weapons. He could have been pressed into service and captured that way. Zoe wouldn't think much of it.

There's a lot of profit to be made in war, so long as you're not a soldier. I bet Jayne is a ruffian of long standing. He could have done all types of lootin and robbin before or after battles, while normal folks were lyin low. It would help cover his tracks.

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