Browncoats that think the West is on track with world politics.
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Friday, December 5, 2025 21:32
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Interesting info... of course, you see that the U.S. is NOT on that list. That says something very important, and I believe pertinent to the questions of this thread.
As to the specific questions:
Trust Bush and Blair? Not Bloody likely.
Torture necessary? Realistically, yes.
No!No!No! The economy is in danger of tilting worse that the magnetic poles did in the past, in other words complete reversal of fortune for the majority of non-rich peoples.
Yes, death and destruction are inevitable as long as some people refuse to "evolve".
"Alliance" world possible? I shutter to think of it.
NO!No!No! Never believe anything any of them say. They all "spin" in their own favor. (Even Clinton: I did not have sex with that woman (meaning: SHE had sex with me. Get it? SPIN!)
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Originally posted by Crajon:
Chrisisall
I have read the replies to what you asked but one thing I must ask. Have you been in the military ? If you had then you would know the answers to what you asked. I went to Iraq and other places around the world and know first hand the evil that terrorism causes. You sleep safe at night, live in an country where you can speak your mind without fear of being jailed but yet you fail to understand the world.
Yes, terrorism causes a lot of evil. I don't think many people would disagree with that. However, I tend to think that a broadly defined "War on Terror" is ultimately going to be highly ineffective. Terrorism has been a part of human history for at least a few thousand years and it will probably continue to exist for another few thousand years. Unless of course we manage to successfully annihilate ourselves. The form/methods/perpetrators will change, but the concept and idea won't.
And no, I haven't been in the military, but I have a lot of family members that have and a few friends that currently are.
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It is unfortunate that the fanatical beliefs of a few are jeopardizing the hard-won freedoms of so many. And by jeopardizing freedoms I mean the curtailing of free speech, free press, and choice of religion. It is a sad day when Americans cannot express their opinions openly. Frankly, I am confused, when the archaic beliefs of one religion are protected while the commonly held beliefs of this country are maligned. Keep in mind, I am not a Christian, but all that nonsense about "say Holiday, not Christmas" just threw me. This is supposed to be the one place on earth where everyone is FREE to practice (or not practice) their own chosen religion. The only reason I can condone for fighting this war in Iraq is to try to break this hold the radical fundamentalists have on Islam. People must be free to make their own choice when it comes to religion. Unfortunately, this is not really a religious war, it is also a political war, and that, my friends, is a whole other "animal"...
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Crayon,
you live in an country where you can speak your mind without fear of being jailed
Really? Tell that to the Quakers and other ordinary innocent Americans who ended up on FBI lists for disagreeing with Bush. The FBI admits it has the lists, says these people are innocent, but says it won't delete them. How about Americans who were secretly wire-tapped? It wasn't haste, it's that Bush says the wire-taps should *never* be reviewed by a court. These people did nothing wrong. All they did was exercise their constitutional right to free speech.
You have to keep in mind what Bush said: "either you are with us, OR YOU ARE WITH THE TERRORISTS." Does that sound democratic to you?
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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Quote:No, but I grew up in rough schools where you had to learn to fight to keep your lunch money, 'cause the teachers didn't or couldn't control the students. Fighting was as natural to me as riding a bike was to most kids. That type of 'combat experience' here in my own 'safe' country count?
Originally posted by Crajon:
Chrisisall
I have read the replies to what you asked but one thing I must ask. Have you been in the military ?
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If you had then you would know the answers to what you asked.
I actually pretty much know (or think I do) the answers to my questions; just seein' if there are any perspectives new to me out there.
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I went to Iraq and other places around the world and know first hand the evil that terrorism causes. You sleep safe at night, live in an country where you can speak your mind without fear of being jailed but yet you fail to understand the world.
*fuzzy* In what way do I fail?
Did I get a 'D' or an 'F'?
My knowledge of muzzle velocities is rather limited...
Relativly safe at night Chrisisall
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Quote:Spot-on I wager.
Originally posted by citizen:
To him even suggesting 'America in Vietnam' is grossly anti-American and makes you a terrorist supporter.
Thanks for the quote, too, I'd not read that one!
Chrisisall, Alliance supporter
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Chrisisall,
Rough schools,eh.Not the same but if in your mind it is then okay. Someday you will may learn what you failed in.
I do know muzzle velocities and seen , treated the damage that is caused by them to people both military and civilian. Hope never to do that again but if I am asked to do it once more, then I will.
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Quote:I was being somewhat sarcastic, no non-life or death experience compares to armed combat; I know that. I just don't 'get' your attitude. Are my questions at the top invalid because I've never been shot at (directly)? Or because my mother died from cancer and not shrapnel?
Originally posted by Crajon:
Rough schools,eh.Not the same but if in your mind it is then okay. Someday you will may learn what you failed in.
Care to elaborate, dude?
Curious Chrisisall
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I've made a point of baiting the bushbabies. It's not that they don't know what's what, they're acutely aware of the gap between bushbaby and normality. They try to paper it over in every post. So I would expect resopnding personal attacks.
What's interesting to me is their pathetic level of argument. They are attacking everyone as moronic, homo, unpatriotic cowards in every thread, rather than debating issues. It comes across as desperate.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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Originally posted by rue:
they're acutely aware of the gap between bushbaby and normality.
Question: Bushbaby?
Acutely un-aware Chrisisall
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