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Why won't the British media just get over it?

POSTED BY: Khyron
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 5:33 PM

I refer to the last sentence in this article.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4923906.stm

I find it very disappointing that the British media (and it's not just the Sun) won't get over its WWII fixation regarding anything German. The current German generation is as responsible for the holocaust as the current British generation is responsible for the genocides that happened during colonialism, and yet still the British bulldogs won't let go.

Like Basil said in Fawlty Towers: "Don't mention the war!". That's some good advice.



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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 8:41 PM

It's a popularist thing. It will die out when the generation that were kids in the imediate post war era die.

An interesting thing I found with Germans of my age is a kind of bizarre national guilt, like they carry original sin for what their parents and grandparents did or failed to do. Younger Germans are getting over it just as younger Brits don't really care about the war.

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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:20 PM

The Tabloid press, being twats! Whatever next?

PirateNews using the British Tabloid press articles as proof of the NWO?

Oh...



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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 9:42 PM

Since we have no empire left we have to cling on to something.
Remember what happens when we beat the Germans at football? Theres almost as much celebration as VE day.

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 10:53 AM

I think that its a bit unfair to slam the tabloids for a prediction that they will push a war fixated series of headlines.

It will happen but it might be more civilised than the pretty shabby stories that appeared around Euro 96.

Of course nowadays Germany is much weaker than it used to be - politically, economically and more importantly,at football.

The other factor is that the Germans have no sense of humour about it, something that few of us can resist.

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 2:14 PM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
The other factor is that the Germans have no sense of humour about it, something that few of us can resist.



Why would anyone have a sense of humour about it...?

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:34 PM

They bombed our chippies.
They have to pay!

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Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:04 PM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
The other factor is that the Germans have no sense of humour about it, something that few of us can resist.



Sorry SimonWho, but that was just a stupid thing to say. Of course they don't have a sense of humour about it. Would the British, the Spanish and the French have a sense of humour if people started making fun of them exterminating millions of natives during colonialism? Would Americans have a sense of humour if people made fun of slavery?

Besides, it's impossible for Germans to have a sense of humour about it since from an early age there's this guilt complex that gets hammered into them. Fletch mentioned this before, and I can confirm it since I lived in Germany for a while and also know a couple of people there, but Germans, through their own media and upbringing, are made to feel guilty about the holocaust and WWII, even if they were born decades after it happened. So of course if another country, particularly one that has a past that it shouldn't be completely proud of in its own right, constantly makes fun of Germans because of its past through its tabloid press, it's going to hurt.



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Thursday, April 20, 2006 5:22 PM

He was joking...



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Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:15 PM

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Originally posted by Khyron:
Quote:

Originally posted by SimonWho:
The other factor is that the Germans have no sense of humour about it, something that few of us can resist.



Sorry SimonWho, but that was just a stupid thing to say. Of course they don't have a sense of humour about it. Would the British, the Spanish and the French have a sense of humour if people started making fun of them exterminating millions of natives during colonialism? Would Americans have a sense of humour if people made fun of slavery?

Besides, it's impossible for Germans to have a sense of humour about it since from an early age there's this guilt complex that gets hammered into them. Fletch mentioned this before, and I can confirm it since I lived in Germany for a while and also know a couple of people there, but Germans, through their own media and upbringing, are made to feel guilty about the holocaust and WWII, even if they were born decades after it happened. So of course if another country, particularly one that has a past that it shouldn't be completely proud of in its own right, constantly makes fun of Germans because of its past through its tabloid press, it's going to hurt.



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Actually we do have a sense of humour about it. Watch The Meaning of Life for a nice little scene set in the days of Empire. The French, they're still proud of their conquering days. And I'm sure there have been plenty of mocking jokes about slavery too.

The difference is that my nearest ancestor involved in empire building probably died a hundred years ago. Whereas a peer of mine in Germany could ask his grandfather how he took part in the most evil, genocidal acts in human history (standard except for Stalin clause here). It's living memory.

One of my close friends remembers it all vividly, how she suffered, how her husband suffered and how the country suffered. How her friends died. How her family died. Now if you'd care to tell her that she should "get over it", please, do so here and I'll pass it on to her.

It's as the old saying goes "If you don't want your country to get the occasional jest at its expense, don't embark on mass campaigns of slaughter, hatred and genocide."

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