Browncoats that think the West is on track with world politics.

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FINN MAC CUMHAL

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:16 AM

Also his sister told him.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

SIGNYM

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 4:31 AM

The reason why PN isn't here is because Geezer is standing in for him....

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Free as in freedom, not beer.

CALBECK

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:41 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
*Just curious as to the thinking involved in accepting Bush, or any world leader, at their word, and backing their actions, no matter how ill-concieved they may seem, without much question.

I've never been a fan of Bush. I always thought he was a mediocre candidate for the office, primarily empowered by the in-depth support network created by his daddy and Reagan. I didn't vote for him in 2000. Likewise, I didn't vote for Gore, because if anything he was even more mealy-mouthed and incapable than Bush. I put him just a tiny notch above Dan Quayle, and I'd move to Australia if Quayle ever took the Presidency.

All that said and done, Kerry and Edwards scared the bejeezus out of me in their efforts to out-scream Howard Dean. At first I thought Kerry would stick to what won him the nomination --- his ability to present himself as calm, cool, and collected. You know, "presidential timber". But then he began frothing at the mouth trying to whip the hard-left Dems into ever-higher tantrums. And succeeded.

What tore it for me is when Edwards, during the debate with Cheney, started harping on the death toll in Iraq claiming that US troops had taken 90% of all Coalition casualties. Cheney corrected him, pointing out that Iraq was now also part of the Coalition, and its nascent police and military were THE primary target of the insurrection. In the end, the Iraqis were taking FIFTY percent of the casualties.

Cheney's figures check out even with anti-war sites. Our Iraqi allies ARE the ones doing the majority of the bleeding.

But Edwards just started repeating himself over and over. He would not do the right thing and admit to not having counted Iraqi dead in his figures. And the only reason I could see that he didn't was to pump up the emotional level with false figures.

And the Dems just eat it up. These days no Democrat rally is complete without a "Bush = Hitler" sign. That's just way too extreme for me, and there doesn't seem to be anyone in the Democratic Party willing to stand up and call for cooler heads to prevail. Instead, it's become an entire party of Howard Deans, with Dean himself as the actual real-life Chairman of the party.

I'm no fan of Bush.

But the Democrats scare the HELL out of me.

RUXTON

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:52 AM

If anyone thinks there's a nickel's worth of difference between Dems and Repubs, you're WAY behind the curve. The two parties are essentially identical, and as long as folks think they're different, we're going to get the same kind of dogpoop we've been getting from Washington, DC.

CALBECK

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:16 AM

I concur. Unfortunately, every time I run for office as a centrist, no one is willing to get up off their ass and support me with more than "go get 'em tiger" speeches.

I've been a balloted candidate for Governor of Arizona. I was able to smack around both parties in the televised debates, ending with a literal standing ovation from the TV studio audience. But I only had $1,000 to run on because even my closest supporters wouldn't pop open their wallets.

Arizona currently has the Clean Elections Act in place, which the Repubs have been trying to destroy since its inception. It gives a state grant of over $1,000,000 to any gubernatorial candidate who refuses to take PAC funds...and who also manages to collect 4,000 signatures. The trick is that each signature must come with a $5 donation to the Clean Elections fund, and while plenty of people are willing to sign petitions for office, they aren't willing to part with the price of one damn Happy Meal.

I'd be happy to be part of a tide of new politicos fighting for public service over party loyalties. But it doesn't appear that the electorate is willing to put its money where its mouth is.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:48 AM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Of course it's the left thats the problem. They're all a bunch of anti-war peacenik wishy washy cowardly warmongering psychopaths who are responcible for all conflicts ever who wouldn't raise a finger to defend themselves if their lives depended on it.
Alrighty, if you say so; I won't argue.

Well, if the conservatives are too be believed. Add 'em all together and that's the opinion you get.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:04 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
Add 'em all together and that's the opinion you get.

So Citizen, why exactly do you always end up supporting Blair and Bush, even when you SEE them planting the seeds of The Alliance?

Chrisisall

CITIZEN

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:12 PM

I don't. I also don't say Liberals are responcible for all wars one minute and are too cowardly to fight the next if that fits my purposes .

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:04 PM

It's all the fault of bi-peds. Stinkin' homosapien trash.
Shoulda stayed in the trees where they belong.

*Appologies to those who believe in Intelligent Design for the evolutionary-like slur above*

*Appologies to those who hold with Evolutionary Theory for the appology above*

*Appologies to bi-peds who didn't vote for Bush or Blair*

Sorry Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:12 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
The reason why PN isn't here is because Geezer is standing in for him....

But he didn't even reply to my explaining how I dont beat my SO, that seem right to you?
It seems he's asked that question of quite a few here, what's his fixation w/the idea? Does he have repressed Gitmo fever?

Chrisisall

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