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Loafers Nook - Citizen, and 'Embracing the Inner Geek'

POSTED BY: seryn
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Sunday, April 9, 2006 10:20 PM

I was looking up the thread too see if I'd missed something about that.

Sounds like a nice eye infection you've got.



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Sunday, April 9, 2006 10:25 PM

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 10:36 PM

*got a great eyepatch at the faire for only $1.50. Serenity and I both have info if others want them...
But I think my info is in the car.


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Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:14 PM

Aww, thanks. It's mostly paper writing and group presentations, but I do have two tests . I'm getting ready now because I've had one hell of a time with my writing this semester. I don't know what it is. I went from "A"'s last sem. to "C"'s this sem. and I can't see anything different in my writing style. So, get started now so that I can talk to professors, do revisions and submit an "A" paper for my final. GARRR!!


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Monday, April 10, 2006 8:46 AM

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Originally posted by seryn:
well, the other one has kind of swelled shut and is constantly leaking, It hurts and is impossible to see out of, so for the time being i'm writing it off and only acknowledging the other, co-operative one.

Oh, piraty, I'll go get my self an eyepatch!

yey!

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Make certain you see to that, and right away. Eye infections are nothing to take lightly. I a life without depth perception totally sucks. They can even spread to ther parts of the head, hint, hint. Get it looked at ASAP!

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Monday, April 10, 2006 11:35 AM

I don't think its an infection, I was having worries last night, but its calmed down a lot now and I can see out of it again, I just think its a really crappy cold and it got very very irritated, by the tissues I was using to keep it dry and the gas fire in my sisters house, which makes my eyes sting at the best of times.

But I can see again now, little blurry, but depth perception all present and correct.

My grandparents we're blind, believe me, its one of my biggest fears, over loosing limbs and everything, If I thought there was a problem i'd be there straight away.

Of course, she'd just tell me to go loose weight, but...

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Monday, April 10, 2006 1:49 PM

I don't fear losing the sight in one eye.

I have already for all practical purposes.

Oh and my brand new car has broken down. The dials (speedometer, revcounter fuel gauge etc) don't work. I was driving along quite happilly at around 30mph, glanced down and noticed I was actually going 0mph at 0 revs with no fuel. Then the engine cut out.

Managed to get it home, called the AA out, they turned up and told me nothing was wrong with it.

That was Saturday night, which kinda ruined my plans, since one car didn't work and the other had a flat battery and I couldn't be bothered to push it down the hill to jump start it nor charge the battery.

So I go too it today to get to work, turn it over, engine starts, engine stops. Try again engine starts, engine stops. Try a third and final time Rooom-click-shudder-silence. But it's okay! There's nothing wrong with it, the AA said so. Fourth emergency service my lilly white arse bunch of useless... {descends into incoherent strings of insults}.



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Monday, April 10, 2006 2:18 PM

Hmmm...that's not good.

It has petrol right? And the alternator's working?

SR knows more about that stuff than me, but it sound like you Have a Problem.

Poor Seanny, always getting kicked when he's down.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
I don't fear losing the sight in one eye.

I have already for all practical purposes.

Oh and my brand new car has broken down. The dials (speedometer, revcounter fuel gauge etc) don't work. I was driving along quite happilly at around 30mph, glanced down and noticed I was actually going 0mph at 0 revs with no fuel. Then the engine cut out.

Managed to get it home, called the AA out, they turned up and told me nothing was wrong with it.

That was Saturday night, which kinda ruined my plans, since one car didn't work and the other had a flat battery and I couldn't be bothered to push it down the hill to jump start it nor charge the battery.

So I go too it today to get to work, turn it over, engine starts, engine stops. Try again engine starts, engine stops. Try a third and final time Rooom-click-shudder-silence. But it's okay! There's nothing wrong with it, the AA said so. Fourth emergency service my lilly white arse bunch of useless... {descends into incoherent strings of insults}.



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AA is confusing the concepts of something they can fix with a problem. The correct answer is, "It's nothing we can fix." Check all your fuses and your battery connections and if you don't find anything then have it towed to the dealership's service department. It's a brand new car right it still be under warranty. This sounds like a problem with the ignition switch. The engine runs as long as the starter has power, but dies when you let go of the key. The guages are electrical, more evidence of a electrical problem. It sure sounds like a defective ignition switch to me, but it maybe something else like a blown fuse or a broken wire, but the fact that you were able to restart the car doesn't sound like a hard failure like a wire or a fuse, it sounds like a bad connection. Another option is a computer problem which might affect everything the same way as the switch. If you have a digital volt/ohm meter check for power to the fuses with the key on and engine off. If you aren't even getting power to the fuses then the problem is most likely in the switch or some master fuse near the battery. Regardless it isn't anything you should have to fix yourself. Your car is still covered under warranty and the dealership is responsible for fixing it.

If you don't find anything obvious in short order have it towed back to the dealership and have the tow truck driver bill the dealership for the exspense of the towing. If they are smart they will pay it up front, it's good business for them to do it. You will tell all your friends that they a good folks who care and are willing to make things right even if their product isn't perfect. If they don't pay for it, you tell all your friends that they are just a bunch greedy thieves whose only interest is selling a shoddy product to the public. Paying for that tow bill is essentially a small investment in word of mouth advertising.

Just out of curiousity what kind of car is it?



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Monday, April 10, 2006 6:11 PM

I think it's something to do with the engine management system. I't not the igintion, because the engine fires and turns over then cuts. It could be the fuel injection I suppose.

I've got a hire car now (Vauxhall Astra) and I'm getting my car taken away tommorrow. I've spent the last two hours either driving to and from hire car places in rush hour traffic (fun, especially with an unfamilliar car you haven't had the chance to setup for yourself yet) or speaking on the phone with conversations that go a little like this:
Them: "we can't get your car taken away until the 20th, could you drive it to the garage?"
Me: "The car doesn't start, so the likely hood of me being able to drive it anywhere is fairly remote."
Them: "So shall we pick it up on the 20th?"
Me: "No you can pick it up tommorrow."
Them: "We can't pick it up until the 20th."
Me: "And I can't drive my brand new car because it's broken down."
Them: "Erm we could erm, get the AA to tow it..."

So, where's the beer.

and cigarettes.

apart from that my phone broke today, and I've needed a mobile today more than I can ever remember actually needing one.

apart from that I feel good, hows everyone else?



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Monday, April 10, 2006 6:49 PM

*has nothing to contribute to the car problems conversation, but also don't kick Seany when he's down......I'll wait for him to get up.*


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Monday, April 10, 2006 6:56 PM

Oh, geeze. so that's where my bad luck went, sorry Citizen.
*offers lots of alcohol but no cigarettes, they're bad for you, and smell up the place...No smoky!*


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Monday, April 10, 2006 9:11 PM

I'm glad you're sticking up for yourself, Sean. But all these problems! That is very not nice! What a huge pain. And do they really and truly believe you're just going to sit around with a broken car for 10 days? Are they serious?!?

You and Rel and the car problems! Not a good thing.

I agree, no smoky! And, please, not toooo very much beer. Remember: Fire bad, tree pretty!

I hope tomorrow is a better day for you!



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Monday, April 10, 2006 9:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
I think it's something to do with the engine management system. I't not the igintion, because the engine fires and turns over then cuts. It could be the fuel injection I suppose.

I've got a hire car now (Vauxhall Astra) and I'm getting my car taken away tommorrow. I've spent the last two hours either driving to and from hire car places in rush hour traffic (fun, especially with an unfamilliar car you haven't had the chance to setup for yourself yet) or speaking on the phone with conversations that go a little like this:
Them: "we can't get your car taken away until the 20th, could you drive it to the garage?"
Me: "The car doesn't start, so the likely hood of me being able to drive it anywhere is fairly remote."
Them: "So shall we pick it up on the 20th?"
Me: "No you can pick it up tommorrow."
Them: "We can't pick it up until the 20th."
Me: "And I can't drive my brand new car because it's broken down."
Them: "Erm we could erm, get the AA to tow it..."

So, where's the beer.

and cigarettes.

apart from that my phone broke today, and I've needed a mobile today more than I can ever remember actually needing one.

apart from that I feel good, hows everyone else?



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Engine management system, that goes into my list of queen's english along with lift, lorry, spanner, gudgeon pin and chemist. I believe that is what I would call the computer or the brain. Yes it could also be a fuel delivery problem which may be mechanical or controlled by the brain. IS AA the only option for transporting a disabled vehicle? In my neck of the woods there are plenty of independant tow truck drivers, I ought to know, I worked for one. On some cars the ignition is powered off the starter while the starter is triggered allowing the engine fire and run and then dies as soon as you let go of the key and try to let the engine run on it's own. The reason I suspected ignition problem is all the electrical items being dead that doesn't happen when the there is power supplied to everything, so most likely not a mechanical fuel problem. Check to see if the if all the vacuum lines, tubes, and hoses are intact on the intake manifold. If somehow air is able to leak in to the manifold in a way that the computer isn't able to measure upstream at the Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor then the fuel air ratio will be incorrect tending to cause the engine to want to die at idle speeds. This problem is reffered to as a vacuum leak in my neck of the woods and you can usually find it by listening for a whistling sound under the hood (bonnet) while the engine is running. You may need a friend to keep the engine running while you listen. Sometimes a open tube stethscope helps to isolate the sound.

I bet I could find the problem with this car in less than a hour. So you just air ship it to me, send the transport bill to the dealer and leave a case of Guiness in the boot for my trouble and I'll have it all sorted out in no time.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 9:27 PM

I'm kinda chilled about it now. I've got a better car (though it doesn't have an mp3 player, for shame) as a hire and my cars being picked up tommorrow.

Don't worry, i'll be good.

Poing.



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Monday, April 10, 2006 9:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ScorpionRegent:
Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
I think it's something to do with the engine management system. I't not the igintion, because the engine fires and turns over then cuts. It could be the fuel injection I suppose.

I've got a hire car now (Vauxhall Astra) and I'm getting my car taken away tommorrow. I've spent the last two hours either driving to and from hire car places in rush hour traffic (fun, especially with an unfamilliar car you haven't had the chance to setup for yourself yet) or speaking on the phone with conversations that go a little like this:
Them: "we can't get your car taken away until the 20th, could you drive it to the garage?"
Me: "The car doesn't start, so the likely hood of me being able to drive it anywhere is fairly remote."
Them: "So shall we pick it up on the 20th?"
Me: "No you can pick it up tommorrow."
Them: "We can't pick it up until the 20th."
Me: "And I can't drive my brand new car because it's broken down."
Them: "Erm we could erm, get the AA to tow it..."

So, where's the beer.

and cigarettes.

apart from that my phone broke today, and I've needed a mobile today more than I can ever remember actually needing one.

apart from that I feel good, hows everyone else?



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Engine management system, that goes into my list of queen's english along with lift, lorry, spanner, gudgeon pin and chemist. I believe that is what I would call the computer or the brain. Yes it could also be a fuel delivery problem which may be mechanical or controlled by the brain. IS AA the only option for transporting a disabled vehicle? In my neck of the woods there are plenty of independant tow truck drivers, I ought to know, I worked for one. On some cars the ignition is powered off the starter while the starter is triggered allowing the engine fire and run and then dies as soon as you let go of the key and try to let the engine run on it's own. The reason I suspected ignition problem is all the electrical items being dead that doesn't happen when the there is power supplied to everything, so most likely not a mechanical fuel problem. Check to see if the if all the vacuum lines, tubes, and hoses are intact on the intake manifold. If somehow air is able to leak in to the manifold in a way that the computer isn't able to measure upstream at the Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor then the fuel air ratio will be incorrect tending to cause the engine to want to die at idle speeds. This problem is reffered to as a vacuum leak in my neck of the woods and you can usually find it by listening for a whistling sound under the hood (bonnet) while the engine is running. You may need a friend to keep the engine running while you listen. Sometimes a open tube stethscope helps to isolate the sound.

I bet I could find the problem with this car in less than a hour. So you just air ship it to me, send the transport bill to the dealer and leave a case of Guiness in the boot for my trouble and I'll have it all sorted out in no time.

Scorpion Regent






I'm sorry if I'm starting to sound too much like Jeordi La Forge, but people depend too much on their cars without knowing how they work. Of course you what that means?...


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Monday, April 10, 2006 9:35 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
I'm kinda chilled about it now. I've got a better car (though it doesn't have an mp3 player, for shame) as a hire and my cars being picked up tommorrow.

Don't worry, i'll be good.

Poing.



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When it does get fixed let me know what it was, please. It will drive me crazy if I can't find out.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 10:04 PM

The engine and dials also cut out while driving, plus apart from the dials which cut out whether the engine is running or not all other electircal systems are fine.

Makes me think that perhaps theres a loose connection for the module and the engine management, what I know about cars you can fit into a thimble, I mean I understand the theory, but in theory communism works. I'm working off of what little I do know and suggestions by people who are/were in the motor trade, like your good self.

Unfortunatly I'm stuck with the good old AA, since it's a company car and I use who they tell me to use. The car is covered by £300 a month, under the company plan with the AA/Leaseplan, my father pays £100 and gets service from the RAC that puts these clowns to shame. Go figure.



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Monday, April 10, 2006 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by citizen:
The engine and dials also cut out while driving, plus apart from the dials which cut out whether the engine is running or not all other electircal systems are fine.

Makes me think that perhaps theres a loose connection for the module and the engine management, what I know about cars you can fit into a thimble, I mean I understand the theory, but in theory communism works. I'm working off of what little I do know and suggestions by people who are/were in the motor trade, like your good self.

Unfortunatly I'm stuck with the good old AA, since it's a company car and I use who they tell me to use. The car is covered by £300 a month, under the company plan with the AA/Leaseplan, my father pays £100 and gets service from the RAC that puts these clowns to shame. Go figure.



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Well your tachometer, the guage that reads engine speed, went out and that goes away when you lose power to the ignition. Hence my suspicion in that direction.

I have no idea what AA or RAC is but I can venture a guess. So what kind of car is it?

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Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:35 AM

AA == Automobile Association
RAC == Royal Automobile Club
Their national mobile breakdown "services" (using the term loosely in respect to the AA, I can change a damn tire and charge a battery, which seems all their capable of). The RAC has been going since the only people who had cars were royalty...

The cutting out of the dials *seems* independent of the engine, sometimes they'll work and the engine doesn't, sometimes the engine runs and the dials don't.

The Cars a Vauxhall Corsa, I think Vauxhall trades as Opel in the rest of the world.



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Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:40 PM

Any luck with getting someone to tow the car yet, Sean?



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Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:09 PM

Tonight at 5:30, getting a tow.



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Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:32 PM

GOOD!

This isn't going to end up like Rel, where his car was in the shop for 4 weeks is it?

Ridiculous!

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Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:29 PM

If it does I don't mind. My hire car is much nicer than my actual car .



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Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:17 PM

But do you have to pay extra for the hire car? That would stink.

My car broke down a week after I bought it. It was the alternator. Since I'd just gotten the car, they replaced it for me for free, I ended up playing something small for labor, like $30 or something. And for a few days I had very nice new saturn to drive around as opposed to the used one I'd just bought.

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Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:20 PM

Well, I'm not paying for it

It's nice having someone elses car to drive



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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:57 PM

So, It's been towed now?


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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:29 PM

Don't just, just don't.

It's one F*** up after another at the moment...



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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:35 PM

*squidges Seanny*

*squidges him again*

*hands him a beer*

*more squidges*



leaves a few extra *squidges* lying around in case they're needed.

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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:42 PM

Thanks, needed that.



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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 9:19 PM

squidges from the right folk always help stuff ;D

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:13 AM

*Hopes to get some Squidges from the right folk soon. *

ok, need to burn some energy, I'm going to go run in circles 'til I fall over.


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Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:27 PM

You're welcome, Sean.

I'm always here for squidges, anyone needs any.



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Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:58 PM

Oh! Thanks CMS! *Squidge*

*breathes a sigh of relief*
Everything seems to be better now.


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Friday, April 14, 2006 1:53 PM

why do i get the feeling that Jadehand needs a really really big hamster wheel?

Nervous energy, its not good!

I lost that button again, its just not going to stay on the board.

In other news. I've put my cat on a diet.

If you suddenly stop hearing from me, its because she and her kitty friends have waylaid me and i'm lying somewhere in a back ally being force fed catnip and having to listen to them sing.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 2:05 PM

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Don't just, just don't.

It's one F*** up after another at the moment...





That too bad. Any word on your wheels?

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Friday, April 14, 2006 2:09 PM

My cat may have to go on a diet soon, too. He's getting a bit pudgy. He's become lazy like the other cats because the grands yell at him when he tears around the house. Me, I like the tearing. Rather have an active cat than a lazy one. I was playing Roll Over with him the other night (He lays on his back because he wants me to rub it and then he changes his mind and tries to attack my hand, so I tap him on his left hip, and his whole body twists to the left to try to grab my hand and then I tap him on his right hip and he rolls to the right and I keep doing that till I can't get him to rock back and forth anymore. It's VERY funny.)

Anyway, while playing Roll Over, I noticed his tumtum was getting a bit round under all the fluff. I think he's eating both his food and the other kitties'. Naughty.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 2:11 PM

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That too bad. Any word on your wheels?

They're working on it now, well not now, it's the bank holiday. Only took being sent to several different garrages too...
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If you suddenly stop hearing from me, its because she and her kitty friends have waylaid me and i'm lying somewhere in a back ally being force fed catnip and having to listen to them sing.


Your my kind of crazy.



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Friday, April 14, 2006 2:16 PM

this is more an attempt to establish regular meal times and stop the constant grating whining.

At the moment, she whines and people feed her to shut her up, what I'm hoping is that with rgular times she'll realise that the whining no longer works.

There was an early indication that it might work, she came into the kitchen today and ate some of her kibble bits (she has the dry food stuff with all the vitamins and everything for elderly cats, i'm hoping that its helping) with out making a noise, Of course as soon as she clocked me watchig her the winging started.

yeah, she occaisionally plays that game, then has this sudden attack of dignity and has to go away and glare at you in a superior fashion from somewhere up high.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 2:29 PM

I feed the beast every night before I go to bed because then he doesn't wake me up at 3am complaining he's hungry. But it does mean that from the moment I walk into the house until 10pm, he begs for food. Some days it's harder to ignore than others. Especially when he decides that he must get my attention by laying in wait and then POUNCING on my ankles every time I walk by. Or scratching at my door if I shut it so he can't come in.

Kitties! So cute and fluffy, such big pains.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 3:09 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
They're working on it now, well not now, it's the bank holiday. Only took being sent to several different garrages too...





Mechanics get to keep bankers hours in your country? Maybe I should move there. Now I really must know what the problem is. If it's going on the repair circuit tour that means it's something devilishly complex or all the people who have looked at it so far are overlooking something god awfully obvious.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 3:11 PM

No, it's because the people who booked it in couldn't be bothered to book it in too and send it too the same garage...



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Friday, April 14, 2006 9:32 PM

frickin egits.


Someone once pointed out to me the fact that, theres an Average. At least half the population of the world are below average intelligence.

At that point i wanted to cry.

Then they made it worse, by saying that, according to all my i.q tests and whatnot, i'm some where around 80% on the scale. Meaning that 79% of the population were stoopider than me.

And then I really did cry, cause i'd just walked into a glass door.



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Friday, April 14, 2006 10:46 PM

Glass doors suck



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Friday, April 14, 2006 10:55 PM

Ha! I walk into doors and walls all the time...thats' not an intelligence thing, it's an awareness thing. My theory is if you're super intelligent (like us) you'd always be thinking of something and therefore always be running into things because you're brilliant brain was preoccupied.

See? Not average, smart!




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Friday, April 14, 2006 10:57 PM

I've never walked into a door. Seriously, does that mean I'm George Bush?



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Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:40 AM

no, nothing that bad!

oh, I read there was a film coming out, kinda like Futerama, where owen wilson gets frozen and wakes up in the year 3001, and everyone is a stupid as George Bush.

Gawd, can you imagine it?

Oh, yes, I can embrace that theory, like when scientists are so busy cracking the atoms or whatever, that they need a houskeeper to force them to eat, and then can still rarely remember to put on socks.

yeah, i'm comfortable with beinhg compared to geniususues....

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Saturday, April 15, 2006 9:44 AM

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no, nothing that bad!

oh, I read there was a film coming out, kinda like Futerama, where owen wilson gets frozen and wakes up in the year 3001, and everyone is a stupid as George Bush.


Sooo, kinda like Milton Keynes today then?
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Oh, yes, I can embrace that theory, like when scientists are so busy cracking the atoms or whatever, that they need a houskeeper to force them to eat, and then can still rarely remember to put on socks.

I am, officially, the worlds most disorganised man. I can could be disorganised for my country at the next olympics. They'd give you a room and tell you to untidy it. The one with the most disorganisation would win gold.

I'd win everytime.

In fact theres gotta be something really vital and important I'm supposed to have done days ago...



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Saturday, April 15, 2006 2:13 PM

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?



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Saturday, April 15, 2006 3:57 PM

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I am, officially, the worlds most disorganised man. I can could be disorganised for my country at the next olympics. They'd give you a room and tell you to untidy it. The one with the most disorganisation would win gold.

I'd win everytime.




I don't know, I think my grandfather would give you a run for your money. Every single day I must collect 10 or 12 pens and pencils that he's left lying all over the place. EVERY SINGLE DAY he loses at least 3 of the following: his hearing aids, his glasses, his sunglasses, his hat, his wallet, his keys, his shoes, himSELF, the remote control, the newspaper, his mail, something he's written down on a scrap of paper, his afternoon medications, his slippers, the book he's reading and his glass of water. I am constantly keeping tabs on all of his things because they end up EVERYWHERE.

He could teach you a thing or two. Chaos is in his wake.

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Sunday, April 16, 2006 12:23 AM

I don't misplace stuff, so much as forget which stack of crap I put it in.

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Sunday, April 16, 2006 3:44 AM

but you're so methodical!

Really, I'm quite disappointed!

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Sunday, April 16, 2006 5:21 AM

oh there's a method to my madness. But, it's still madness. MADNESS!

"Madness, no. Something a good deal more dangerous. Have you looked at this scan carefully? At his face? It's love, in point of fact" love of all the crazy Browncoats.

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Sunday, April 16, 2006 8:49 PM

when i heard the word methodical used to describe jade, well...

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Monday, April 17, 2006 8:32 AM

Yes, but it was qualified with the word madness.

Aw, Jade, no matter how methodical you are, we wuvs yoo nonetheless.

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Monday, April 17, 2006 12:22 PM

Speaking of disorganised:
What dates is the hotel room booked for for DC? 31st - 5th? I'm just getting around to booking flights.



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Monday, April 17, 2006 1:25 PM

"Wuv....Twue Wuv...."
Anyway. Yay!
Yes, I've gone mad, over the rainbow. But in the absolute best way possible.
Going shopping for gear. ummmm... gear.
Being methodical, works wonders. Being so very descriptive of every detail...
*gets lost in thought*
Oh, sorry. forward.....

Yes Citizen, 31st to 5th. Really, get that ticket before prices get jacked up again.


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Monday, April 17, 2006 2:16 PM

oh, I gotta go watch the movie now....

(edit- oh! J, theres a song you have to hear -click on the linky below, and listen to the song that plays automatically)

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Monday, April 17, 2006 3:34 PM

you. you are too much. That's a wonderful song. First time I heard it. But I love it. Great for well, my heads too full of images to express my thoughts here.
*listens to song again.



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Monday, April 17, 2006 6:24 PM

Thanks Jade, all booked up now, flying Delta from Gatwick.

Hmm, myspace seems to break FireFox...



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Monday, April 17, 2006 8:09 PM

*hates myspace*

yes i have an account but it'sonly to read blogs...no info posted there.

hates it we does.




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Monday, April 17, 2006 8:10 PM

Did it steal you precious?



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Monday, April 17, 2006 9:23 PM

Ok, Gollum! Bad dog! get back to your bed! Now!

Ok, do we have Sean and Wild back yet?

I dunno, the one thing i'm having issues with is the Html crap. I'm getting some stuff, but then it just seems to stop working. Like the Hex chart colours, i get the theory, but every chart I can find uses number and letters, and the one I need is just numbers, ilooked for my own computers colour configuration chart, but it doesn't appear to have one, and the only other place I know of an entirely numericl chart is adobe photoshop, which idon't have, and i know I'm missing something blatantly obvious, but i'm just stumped, so istopped doing it.

And I need real friends, like you guys, so far I just got all the local area bands and the music I like.
oh, and a random guy from Chester.

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Monday, April 17, 2006 10:21 PM

If I ever get it working you can add me. If I ever get it working.

That is if such a thing is possible.

Though I'm not sure I'm real, I might be a figment of my imagination, or a web based AI drone, maybe I'm the ghost in the machine?

The numerical colour codes are HEX and they're deceptively simple, no really:

The format is like this (in straight HTML, which I assume is how myspace works):
#RRGGBB
For the sake of making everything very obvious R==red channel G==Green Channel B==Blue Channel. Each channel has a value between 00 and FF (0 to 255). Basically #FF0000 is bright red, #FFFFFF is white and #000000 is black.

What you could do is use PC Paint to get the colour you want with the colour picker (double click any colour on the chart and click the define custom colour button) get the colour you want and you'll have a series of boxes on the bottom right that give you values for red green and blue for the colour.

You can then convert them to hex by typing the value into calc in scientific mode and hit the hex check box on the top left. That'll convert it for you. It's a little long winded but will work for anyone with Windows.

Edit:
Or you could use this
http://www.immigration-usa.com/html_colors.html
Or this which is even easier:
http://www.zspc.com/color/index-e.html

I don't think it's every colour possible, but it's a start.



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Monday, April 17, 2006 10:50 PM

I actually just found a site where you just move the little slider bars around until you have the colour you want, then add a photo and click a few boxes and it generates a code for you to use.it doesn't work quite how it should, but i'll sort that at some point.

See, that is how my life works, all i have to do is admit publically that i can't do something, and then suddenly it all become much easier and I can. I'm sure theres some sort of life lesson in there, but they can be damned if i'm going to take that kind of lesson to heart. humiliation as a teaching aid, not in my school.

but hey.

use normal internet explorer, i have firefox, but don't use it at all, it won't let me into half the stuff, and the other half just generates warning box loops.

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Monday, April 17, 2006 11:15 PM

The only site I have a problem with is myspace with firefox. You're myspace killed it, so I had to use Opera.

Dirty IE! Dirty, Dirty IE!



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Monday, April 17, 2006 11:20 PM

's'wah?

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Monday, April 17, 2006 11:21 PM

?



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Monday, April 17, 2006 11:24 PM

"...so I had to use Opera.

Dirty IE! Dirty, Dirty IE!"


what does tha' mean?


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Monday, April 17, 2006 11:27 PM

Opera web browser:
http://www.opera.com/

Dirty IE:
MS Internet is dirty, dirty unclean unclean!

Kill it kill it!



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Monday, April 17, 2006 11:29 PM

ok honey *strokes hair* *pats shoulder*

just sit quietly, take long slow breaths, the geek attack will pass soon, just stay calm...

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Monday, April 17, 2006 11:35 PM

*shifty eyes*

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Monday, April 17, 2006 11:50 PM

Oh dear, looks like this attack is going to be a doozy.

well, i'm off to bed.

remember, breath nice and slow...

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Monday, April 17, 2006 11:51 PM

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just sit quietly, take long slow breaths, the geek attack will pass soon, just stay calm...

On further reflection:
Laptop to the left of me, Playstation to the right,
Stuck in the middle with desktop too...

I don't get Geek attacks, I'm a terminal case.

Shoot me, shoot me now (it's the humane thing to do).

*Random yokel*Hiyaup yup yup tak' 'im at back an' blow da mother away!



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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:28 AM

ok, completely freaky coincidence. They just played that song on tonight's 'Medium'.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:35 AM

*pulls out extremely large gun*

Stand back everyone, this has to be done...









On second thoughts, I think we can all live quite happily with Citizen the Geek.

Just no more ranting about IE thingummybobs, ok?

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:50 AM

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On second thoughts, I think we can all live quite happily with Citizen the Geek.

Just no more ranting about IE thingummybobs, ok?

No no, you can't! Go with your first impulse it's nearly always correct.



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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:27 AM

well, you'll have to do me too...I understood every word of that.



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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:22 AM

http://www.myspace.com/cybercitizen

More info about me than any sane person could possibly want.



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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:32 PM

No shooting Citizen! He may be a geek, but he's OUR geek and we're keeping him.

At least until after S3.

Then we can renegotiate.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 2:07 PM

Don't listen Seryn! you know what needs to be done!



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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 5:30 PM

Ah, but you are telling me to go by my instincts. And my first instinct now is that you want to be shot really badly...

and as i'm a willfully contrary b***h, I ain't shootin' you.

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:04 PM

you're not contrary , oh wait. yes you are.

*loads gun with rubber bullets*

They'll hurt more.


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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:08 PM

ooh, can we shoot him with paintball pellets instead? That's fun, though it does hurt. (She speaks from experience.) We can make Sean all rainbow coloured.



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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:30 PM

I have an idea, you go with the pink paint, i'll go with the purple sparkly, every choose a colour, we're going to make Sean look like a ten year old girls bedroom.

That oughta take his mind off things...

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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 6:39 PM

* is struck with a very unclever idea.

"Owww!"

* loads the paint trebuchet....


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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 7:24 PM

trebuchet! ooooooooooh!



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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:35 PM

Anyone even THINKS about making me look like a ten year old girls bedroom and I deploy the rubber nuclear weapons. Riot supressers of the future.



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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:57 PM

No no, dear. The weapons of the future are inflatable.



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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:29 PM

inflateable weapons..... oh my


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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:33 PM

down!




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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:48 PM

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Originally posted by CallMeSerenity:
No no, dear. The weapons of the future are inflatable.


Not the crowd control kind, they're rubber.

No Jade we aren't having a riot



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Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:43 PM

*has a private riot, lots of.... oh nevermind.


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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:10 AM

Oi! I need to be in someone's bunk....

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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:13 AM

*opens door*

Come on in Cozzy. You can stay here...I have to go make dinner.

...unless you meant....oh....well, i won't kick you out when I come to bed...that help?




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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 12:16 AM

Just what the Doctor ordered!

*fluffs the llamapillow*

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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 1:47 PM

New thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=11&t=19932

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