No more Firefly/Serenity

POSTED BY: Ellis
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I just think its so sad that we are stuck talking about what could be instead of talking about what is. We would just be ending season four right now. Why do so many awful shows get so much play, and a show like this gets half a season? I think that if somehow Firefly in some sort of incarnation flew again, it would be advanced in time again, to sort of "reset" a new ground of characters, with their own interactions, etc. And this could be done easily. I don't think Joss Whedon wrote Serenity as a farewell. I believe he fully intended the movie, if it had done well, to serve as a springboard for a future series, or at least a few movies. But it didn't happen. And that is just so frustrating and sad.

"May have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Give it time! We're only a few months out and Joss has not said that it's over yet. When he says it, then i'll lose all hope, until then... "i'm holding til Mal get's back."

Think about it... it was what like two years after the end of the series that there was rumors of a movie being made? This is just another lull.

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Originally posted by Whisper:
Give it time! We're only a few months out and Joss has not said that it's over yet. When he says it, then i'll lose all hope, until then... "i'm holding til Mal get's back."

Think about it... it was what like two years after the end of the series that there was rumors of a movie being made? This is just another lull.

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Actually I think I read somewhere (posted here too) that Joss has said those characters are done. Not the verse, just those characters.

Now don't go thinking I'm trying to be negative and I don't want more series or movies, because that is so not true. Just because the creator says it's finished doesn't mean it is if the fans speak loud enough. I'm in on the June 23 thing and have very HIGH hopes of getting another glimpse into the verse.

But for the original post. This story is far from over. Zoe now has to deal with Wash's loss. Where will they go to hide with Book dead? What about Mal and Inara's relationship? What about River wanting to fly Serenity? And of course what about Badger, Saffron, the russian (whose name I can't spell)?

The Operative is out becaus Mal said he'd kill him if he ever saw him again. I'm sure the Reavers thing was the big thing in River's head but it can't be the only thing. Totalitarian governments tend to have more than one big secret. Besides with that knowledge out there lots of people are going to be pissed and maybe want to do something. Maybe a second war. Who knows the possibilities are endless.

so don't give up hope. Oh yeah and didn't you know the crew signed on to do three movies (provided Serenity did well enough) so believe me that it ain't over yet.

Under a Blag Flag We Shall Sail

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Originally posted by Whisper:
Give it time! We're only a few months out and Joss has not said that it's over yet. When he says it, then i'll lose all hope, until then... "i'm holding til Mal get's back."

Think about it... it was what like two years after the end of the series that there was rumors of a movie being made? This is just another lull.

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Oh yeah and didn't you know the crew signed on to do three movies (provided Serenity did well enough) so believe me that it ain't over yet.

Under a Blag Flag We Shall Sail

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They did sign on to do three movies, and I think they all fully expect to do two more. I expect them to do two more. The DVD sales are strong, they will be even stronger after June 23rd, which is a brilliant idea folks, so we just have to do what Browncoats are good at doing... hold the line. Joss is busy with WW and Goners, his attention will turn back to the 'verse. We have some time to wait and convince Universal to make another one or two.

I'm holdin' til Mal gets back.

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" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Ellis wrote, in part:

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I finished watching the series and many people were right: I absolutely love it. I figured I’d watch Serenity again because some things would have more significance, more impact, and I would understand some of the things going on better than I did before. It was like watching a whole new movie. After watching it, though, something occurred to me: it’s the end.

See, almost everyone here keeps talking about bringing back Firefly to TV or the possibility of a sequel; I say: leave it where it is. True, it’s sad that there aren’t more episodes, but really, what could Joss do to continue it?

The death of Mr. Universe is inconsequential since he was a character unique to the movie (as far as I can tell; I never heard him mentioned in the series). The death of Book and Wash, however, would make continuing the series pointless. In Firefly, it’s about all of them and how they interact with each other; how they balance each other out. Having those two gone means that anything that comes after it would be hollow...

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Alright. First off, I think you're fishing, here (or 'trolling', in it's most beneficent form).

But just in case you're not, ingest the following and call me in the morning:

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The Present...

Mal looked at Zoe, nodded solemnly, then turned back to face his brother.

“Your face has been splashed all across the Cortex, Magnus,” he said without further preamble.

“Never thought I had the looks to be a Cortex star, did'ja?” Magnus retorted, still in an amiably bantering tone, his eye starting to swell ominously.

“This isn't a joking matter,” Mal said seriously. The smile faded from his brother's face. “What in God's name do you think you're doing?” Mal asked him.

“What am I doing?” replied Magnus angrily. “The same thing I've been doing since the Alliance killed our whole f*cking planet, that's what! Killing those bastards where ever I find them!”

Mal remained silent for a moment before asking, “And the civilian employees, women and children?”

“If you wanna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs, Malcolm,” Magnus replied soberly. “Besides, I'm not the one who put them in harm's way.”

“There's gotta be another way, Magnus,” Malcolm responded softly.

“There's not,” his brother replied. “Look. We've got 'em on the run now, Malcolm. Did you hear about what those bastards did on Miranda?”

“I heard something about it”, Mal said evasively.

“Well, the Alliance pulled off their old trick of mass-murdering a whole planet, again, is what they did. Those that didn't die were turned into the Reavers we all know and love”, Magnus related. “I reckon the ones who died were the lucky ones. Those people were 'civilians, women and children', too, Malcolm. Who avenges their deaths?”

“Two wrongs don't make a right,” Mal said pointedly. “Mama always said-”

“Mama's dead, Malcolm!” Magnus interrupted. “And you know why!”

Into Mal's shamed silence, Magnus continued hotly, “The only thing that lets me sleep at night is the satisfaction that her murderer never made it off Shadow alive. That sonofabitch got chopped up and incinerated along with our whole family and everything else that walks, crawls or swims. You been back 'home', Malcolm?”

Mal just looked at him haggardly.

“Well, I have,” Magnus asserted. “What they never showed in the newswaves was that about two hours after they ripped the surface off the moon, they turned the grav generators back on. Everything – well 'most everything – fell back planetside in a jumble, over the next year or two. No sense wasting all the money the Alliance had spent terraforming the place, all the atmo and biomass. But it's tabula rasa down there, a clean slate. I used global positioning to find our homestead. There's nothing there. Not even Mama's grave, and I scanned for metals.”

“None of that makes any difference, Magnus,” Mal croaked unsteadily. Clearing his throat, he continued, “You was raised Christian, brother.

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Originally posted by FollowMal:


They did sign on to do three movies, and I think they all fully expect to do two more. I expect them to do two more. The DVD sales are strong, they will be even stronger after June 23rd, which is a brilliant idea folks, so we just have to do what Browncoats are good at doing... hold the line. Joss is busy with WW and Goners, his attention will turn back to the 'verse. We have some time to wait and convince Universal to make another one or two.

I'm holdin' til Mal gets back.

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IMO, buying the BDM on Firefly day is the way to go. Fox already has enough of my money, the bastards. We should support Universal. I am ready for the Browncoat insurgency! I share Joss's birthday (June 23rd), so in a way it's a present to me as well. Let's go kick some Amazon.com a$$ and Universal will make more movies.

BTW, my brother that I evangelized over the holidays converted two more folks to Browncoats from his Microsoft certification course. The ripples just keep on going.

"Wanna?" – Mal to Kaylee, Out of Gas

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Originally posted by FollowMal:

They did sign on to do three movies,

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Just because they signed on for 3 movies does not mean that they expect to do 3 movies. That is just Universal guaranteeing that they have the same people playing the same characters IF the movie does well and IF they want to make more.

Basically, it's just good business sense. I don't think that you should read into it any more than that.

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I know it's a gamble SigmaNunki, I'm not reading an absolute into this... but I am reading the same hope that Universal obviously had and that is if we sign them, if the sales are good, if the time is right.. we'll make another and perhaps even another. They have to be thinking that if their good business sense told them to sign them.

So therefore I don't think we're out of line to hope for the same thing. If we make the sales good and the time becomes right and since Universal has them all signed... we can look for another and perhaps another.

Not false hope, SigmaNunki, educated hope.

I'm a Browncoat and a businesswoman. I have to look at it that way. It's logical.




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Originally posted by zoid:
Ellis wrote, in part:

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I finished watching the series and many people were right: I absolutely love it. I figured I’d watch Serenity again because some things would have more significance, more impact, and I would understand some of the things going on better than I did before. It was like watching a whole new movie. After watching it, though, something occurred to me: it’s the end.

See, almost everyone here keeps talking about bringing back Firefly to TV or the possibility of a sequel; I say: leave it where it is. True, it’s sad that there aren’t more episodes, but really, what could Joss do to continue it?

The death of Mr. Universe is inconsequential since he was a character unique to the movie (as far as I can tell; I never heard him mentioned in the series). The death of Book and Wash, however, would make continuing the series pointless. In Firefly, it’s about all of them and how they interact with each other; how they balance each other out. Having those two gone means that anything that comes after it would be hollow...

---

Alright. First off, I think you're fishing, here (or 'trolling', in it's most beneficent form).

But just in case you're not, ingest the following and call me in the morning:

********************

The Present...

Mal looked at Zoe, nodded solemnly, then turned back to face his brother.

“Your face has been splashed all across the Cortex, Magnus,” he said without further preamble.

“Never thought I had the looks to be a Cortex star, did'ja?” Magnus retorted, still in an amiably bantering tone, his eye starting to swell ominously.

“This isn't a joking matter,” Mal said seriously. The smile faded from his brother's face. “What in God's name do you think you're doing?” Mal asked him.

“What am I doing?” replied Magnus angrily. “The same thing I've been doing since the Alliance killed our whole f*cking planet, that's what! Killing those bastards where ever I find them!”

Mal remained silent for a moment before asking, “And the civilian employees, women and children?”

“If you wanna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs, Malcolm,” Magnus replied soberly. “Besides, I'm not the one who put them in harm's way.”

“There's gotta be another way, Magnus,” Malcolm responded softly.

“There's not,” his brother replied. “Look. We've got 'em on the run now, Malcolm. Did you hear about what those bastards did on Miranda?”

“I heard something about it”, Mal said evasively.

“Well, the Alliance pulled off their old trick of mass-murdering a whole planet, again, is what they did. Those that didn't die were turned into the Reavers we all know and love”, Magnus related. “I reckon the ones who died were the lucky ones. Those people were 'civilians, women and children', too, Malcolm. Who avenges their deaths?”

“Two wrongs don't make a right,” Mal said pointedly. “Mama always said-”

“Mama's dead, Malcolm!” Magnus interrupted. “And you know why!”

Into Mal's shamed silence, Magnus continued hotly, “The only thing that lets me sleep at night is the satisfaction that her murderer never made it off Shadow alive. That sonofabitch got chopped up and incinerated along with our whole family and everything else that walks, crawls or swims. You been back 'home', Malcolm?”

Mal just looked at him haggardly.

“Well, I have,” Magnus asserted. “What they never showed in the newswaves was that about two hours after they ripped the surface off the moon, they turned the grav generators back on. Everything – well 'most everything – fell back planetside in a jumble, over the next year or two. No sense wasting all the money the Alliance had spent terraforming the place, all the atmo and biomass. But it's tabula rasa down there, a clean slate. I used global positioning to find our homestead. There's nothing there. Not even Mama's grave, and I scanned for metals.”

“None of that makes any difference, Magnus,” Mal croaked unsteadily. Clearing his throat, he continued,

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