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Friday, April 14, 2006 5:08 PM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
It's a sabotted round. It's fired from a conventional gun whick is why the outer sections, the Sabbot, are burning. After the round is fired they fall away and the internal fletchete core continues the the target.

Not a good pic for PN to use because the Sabbot itself wouldnt be DU and the core DU Fletchete would not be in contact with the explosive.


Then I stand corrected, though I did get PN to back up something he said with evidence, so yay me.



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Friday, April 14, 2006 5:10 PM

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Friday, April 14, 2006 5:11 PM

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Friday, April 14, 2006 8:26 PM

Did you eat your own tongue, Reaverman?

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Originally posted by reaverman:

Lead didn't take 45 billion years to come about, fool! the Earth is, at most 5 billion years old (The entire Universe is only 15 billion years old), so, by your imaginary DU deterioration timescale, DU is older than the universe itself. Do you ever get tired of contradicting yourself?



"Depleted" Uranium comes from "Enriched" Uranium, NOT from natural uranium. Lead is decayed natural uranium, NOT from decayed Enriched Uranium, which is manmade inside nuclear reactors, which duplicate the temperature of stars (over 3 million degrees F), forging new heavier elements such as super-radioactive isotopes of uranium. Natural uranium was manufactured inside a star, which then exploded in supernova, perhaps 10-billion years ago, according to current guestimates by nuclear physicists and astronomers. So lead had at least 10-billion years to decay from natural uranium, long before Earth was formed by gravity. Inside stars, ALL elements burn at over 3-million degrees F, including uranium.

4.5-billion years is the official half-life of "Depleted" (Enriched) Uranium. Since half of the original radiation is still deadly radiation, it requires 10 half-lives to reach a "safe" level. Duh. How come you can't figure out how to look it up for yourself? Have you never heard of search engines?

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Experimentally, we find that spontaneous fission reactions occur for only the very heaviest nuclides those with mass numbers of 230 or more. Even when they do occur, these reactions are often very slow. The half-life for the spontaneous fission of 238U, for example, is 10-16 years (10,000,000,000,000,000 years), or about two million times longer than the age of our planet! It is the reprocessing of 239Pu that concerns most of the critics of breeder reactors. 239Pu is so dangerous as a carcinogen that the nuclear industry places a limit on exposure to this material that assumes workers inhale no more than 0.2 micrograms of plutonium over their lifetimes. In 1972, a group of French scientists discovered that uranium ore from a deposit in the Oklo mine in Gabon, West Africa, contained 0.4% 235U instead of the 0.72% abundance found in all other sources of this ore. Analysis of the trace elements in the ore suggested that the amount of 235U in this ore was unusually small because natural fission reactors operated in this deposit for a period of 600,000 to 800,000 years about 2 billion years ago. The d-t reaction has an ignition temperature above 10-8 degrees Kelvin (180-million degrees F). In a hydrogen bomb, a fission reaction produced by a small atomic bomb is used to heat the contents to the temperature required to initiate fusion.
http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/ch23/fission.php



So DU can burn at 180-million degrees F, in a nuclear bomb. So can every other element. Those Jews are so smart, they figured out how to kill people at 180-million degrees F. And these Jews planned the Manhattan Project at Jewish Bohemian Grove, performing "mock" human sacrifice to the Jewish god Molech. And running around nekked in the woods, wanking each others' weewees. Lovely.
www.infowars.com/bg1.html

If DU is so safe, why don't you sign a slave contract and go to Iraq, then eat and breathe and touch as much DU as you can? Then tell us what happens to you, if you survive long enough to write a letter.

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P.S. Learn to spell!!! It's Mafia, not Mafiya!



Mafia = Italian gangsters
Mafiya = Russian Jewish gangsters

That's how THEY spell the names of their organized crime cartels. History Channel TV reports that the Jewish Mafiya has always controlled the Italian Mafia in USA, since the Jewish Mafiya has far more wealth, due to its scamming via bankster and Wall Street rackets, which simply create unlimited money out of paper, which they con the sheeple into paying for.
www.norfed.org

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Also, DU doesn't "ignite at over 3000 degrees F

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Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:29 AM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Lead is decayed natural uranium, NOT from decayed Enriched Uranium, which is manmade inside nuclear reactors, which duplicate the temperature of stars (over 3 million degrees F), forging new heavier elements such as super-radioactive isotopes of uranium.



Nuclear reactors cannot get that hot! If they could, we wouldn't still be struggling to create a viable means of harnessing fusion energy. If it were that temperature, the water used as coolant would vaporize instantly, and the reactor walls would suffer an immediate, catastrophic meltdown.

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Gunpowder burns at over 3,000 degrees F. Are you claiming that is not "hot"? Have you never fired a gun at night, where the fire exiting the barrel can blind you? That's why military rifles, used for hunting people, use "flash-suppressors", to prevent night-blindness, and prevent the enemy seeing their location in the dark.


I have fired a gun at night, without a flash supressor or protective eyeware.
It does not blind you. Plus, if gunpowder burns at 3000 degrees, why don't the action and the barrel melt after a single shot?

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How do you explain tracer bullets, painted with magnesium metal powder, that self-ignites in oxygen, 10-feet after leaving the barrel of a gun? Tracer bullets and magnesium flares self-ignite at ROOM-TEMPERATURE, without primer and without sparks.
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The magnesium and phosphorus they use are completely different chemicals. Different chemicals have different properties. To oxidize (burn), all chemicals MUST have energy to start the reaction. Because of their atomic makeup, some require minimal energy to ignite, while some(like, say, diamond) need unbelieveably massive amounts of activation energy.




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Saturday, April 15, 2006 6:33 AM

I have one simple question for you Piratenews: If the world is run the way you believe it is run, then why aren't you dead? If you are exposing the "truth" about those that run the world, why haven't you "disappeared"?

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Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:43 AM

Stolen from Starship Troopers the Movie, but it fits.


*Voice screen commentary*

“The devastation we are seeing here is unparallel. Judging from early estimates, millions are dead, a city in ruins.

*River6213* “Is that Geneva?”
*Sandra* “Gorrum Piratenews wacked us River”

*Voice screen commentary continues*

“The weapons that hit our city was derived from Lamurra, the home planet of PirateNews.

“Nothing lives, in what was once called a Pacific Northwest paradise.

*River” Sandra, that’s us, that’s home!!

*Voice Commentary *
“Seattle has been wiped off the face of the Earth,”

[Flip screens of various types showing the widespread destruction]

*Voice Commentary *
The federal council assembled moments ago and voted unanimously to destroy the PirateNews threat.

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Saturday, April 15, 2006 7:50 AM

We now have 6 carriers and four battleships with support, and 8 cruisers patrolling this thread, and also air support.
Bring it you mama's boy.

River

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Saturday, April 15, 2006 11:24 AM

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Originally posted by PirateJew:
Lead is decayed natural uranium, NOT from decayed Enriched Uranium, which is manmade inside nuclear reactors, which duplicate the temperature of stars (over 3 million degrees F), forging new heavier elements such as super-radioactive isotopes of uranium. Natural uranium was manufactured inside a star, which then exploded in supernova, perhaps 10-billion years ago, according to current guestimates by nuclear physicists and astronomers.


If you learned to READ and THINK (no what I'm saying sweet pea ) You'd KNOW that a Fission Nuclear Reactor never reaches that temperature. A nuclear Fission reactor contains a Nuclear FISSION reaction to heat water into STEAM. Therefore it never has to rise much above 100 degrees c in order to do it's job. What ever temperature the Reactor reaches it does have to be contained by materials here on Earth, and as you so eloquently (for a primary school child anyway) put it all materials burn at 3-million degrees F.

You may be thinking of a nuclear FUSION reaction, which has to be contained within a magnetic field (and is what happens inside stars). Unfortunately me-love that’s not a radioactive reaction, and has nothing to do with Uranium as a fuel, it turns Hydrogen into Helium by combining two Hydrogen Atoms under pressure and heat to form a single Helium Atom.

This is usually done with Deuterium (an Isotope of Hydrogen, I realise such things would be hard to wrap your head around), which consists of one Proton and one Neutron. These are combined to produce Helium-3, which has two Protons and one Neutron, with a free Neutron as a by product.

When Deuterium is used there is NO radioactive component.
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4.5-billion years is the official half-life of "Depleted" (Enriched) Uranium. Since half of the original radiation is still deadly radiation, it requires 10 half-lives to reach a "safe" level. Duh. How come you can't figure out how to look it up for yourself? Have you never heard of search engines?

Lets get some real numbers out there now shall we. Not PirateNaziJews made up crayon fun-fantasy-playtime numbers:
U-238 has a half life of 4.5 Billion Years.
U-235 has a half life of 713 Million Years.
U-234 has a half life of 342,500 Years.

Can we stop talking about PirateNaziJews sleepy nap time numbers now, please? Now be a good little girl and go do your crayoning.



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Saturday, April 15, 2006 8:46 PM

Ok just to get this over with.

All elements heavier that hydrogen are made by the action of stars. As stars burn hydrogen fuel they convert hydrogen into helium. As stars get old and start to cool they start making heavier materials, esentially the elements that make up our physical world.

The heavier an element, the harder it is to produce, which is why elements like gold, lead and uranium are harder to find in nature than things like nitrogen and carbon.

Some elements have isotopes, that's a variation of the same elements with a different number of neutrons in the core. Now atomic cores tends to be more stable the closer they get to having an even ballence of neutrons and protons, so if an isotope has a wide significant difference in the number of neutrons it has a risk of being radioactive.

Certain very heavy nuclear isotopes like Plutonium are not made by stars. They are made inside nuclear reactors by a process known as neutron capture. Nuclear reactions work on neutrons, when U235 is hit by a neutron it breaks into two lighter elements and produces two new neutrons that go off to split 2 new U235 atoms. It is this chain reaction that powers nuclear reactors and nuclear bombs. If one of these spare neutrons hits the nucleus of another atom and is captured, the resulting isotope tends to become radioactive. It was found that if you bombard U238 with neutrons you eventually get plutonium, that's what a breeder reactor does, it introduces U238 into a reactor in the hope of turning some of it into Plutonium. Since you can make smaller nuclear weapons with Plutonium than Uranium, the existance of breeder reactors is a definate clue to to a country's nuclear intensions.

So let's go through some of the great PN's words of wisdom

1) Lead comes from decayed Uranium. --- Untrue, lead was made as lead inside a dying star. Uranium decays to lead eventually...... but right now there is very little lead about that was once Uranium.

2) Depleted Uranium is a reactor byproduct. ----That could well be, but it would be unlikely. If you buy yellowcake --- Uranium ore most of it is U238. To make fuel from it you have to enrich it, that is, seperate out the U235 from the U238. There are various ways this can be done the lowest tech of which is with a centrafuge (remember the aluminium tube thing.) This is WAY before the material ever sees a reactor. It is at this point that most of the U238 is removed and would be a waste product. It's not impossible that the depleted uranium is reactor waste but to clean it up enough and remove usefull materials and high radioactive isotopes from it would be expensive compared to just using the waste from enrichment.

3) Uranium is really bad for the body. ---- Oh yeah, no doubting that, all heavy metals are extremely bad for you if they are radioactive or not. You can add readily available lead to that list.

4) Depleted Uranium is highly radioactive. ---- No, the clue here is halflife. Generally materials emit radiation as they decay. Halflife is a measurement of rate of decay. High halflife means slow rate of decay, so generally that means low activity. So materials with long half lives are generally not as dangerous as ones with short halflives. There are exceptions to this though. One is if the chemical properties of the material would have it concentrate in the body. The body takes in elements all the time, useful or rare ones it tries to keep. If the radioactive isotope is chemically similar to one of these materials the body may inadvertly concentrate it.

DU's biggest problem by far is that it's toxic. How toxic it is compared to lead I don't know, but then you wouldnt really want to be exposed to too much lead either. Given the army's record with things like Agent Orange it's likely that long term physical and environmental effects haven't really been thought through. At the time DU was being thought out people expected it to be used on a tactical nuclear battlefield, it could be that they believed in that situation the effect was minimal.

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