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Top 5 Things You'd Like To See In BDM2

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Friday, April 14, 2006 6:31 AM

Assuming we'll have another BDM, what 5 things would you like to see happen/what changes would you like to see?

1. More emphasis on ensemble cast/dialogue/character interaction (as in Firefly), less on plot progression at any and all costs.
2. Return of Greg Edmonson as composer (and some inclusion of the Ballad).
2. New logo -- that Papyrus thing is just lame - return to Firefly style logo preferable.
4. Introduction of more test subjects from alliance program.
5. Explanation of Blue Sun.

Okay...fine, six:
Bring back Wash (evan as a Reaver if need be).



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Friday, April 14, 2006 7:42 AM

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Originally posted by Seba:
1. More emphasis on ensemble cast/dialogue/character interaction (as in Firefly), less on plot progression at any and all costs.
2. Return of Greg Edmonson as composer (and some inclusion of the Ballad).
2. New logo -- that Papyrus thing is just lame - return to Firefly style logo preferable.
4. Introduction of more test subjects from alliance program.
5. Explanation of Blue Sun.



Yes, Blue Sun DEFINITELY needs to be the main focus of the story at some point. I'm thinking River knows more than just the Miranda cover-up... she just doesn't know she knows.

And it's true, the character development in the film wasn't nearly as good as in the show; obviously Joss had a lot of story to get through in very little time. I read somewhere that the basic plot of the movie was intended to be the storyline for the first two years of the show (which is good, because it means there's obviously more left to tell). I thought the film did an unbelievable job overall, but I have to admit that Book and Inara were absolutely ROBBED.

As far as the music and the logo, I loved both, especially in the title shot where we pull back from the name and pan around the ship... just gorgeous. And the ballad was included! An instrumental version, at the end of the credits. I loved that.

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Bring back Wash



No.

Sorry, but one of my biggest pet peeves in ANY story is when characters are brought back to life... which is too bad for me, probably, since Joss loves to do this all the time. Feel free to hate me, but personally, I didn't even think they should have brought back Angel on Buffy. That was a fantastic and incredibly powerful death (and my personal favourite episode, actually), and undoing it just cheapened the story for me. Yes, we love Wash. That's why his death had such an impact, just like Joss wanted it to. To keep that impact, to keep the story honest with real consequences, he needs to STAY DEAD. The story can continue without him, and I'm sure his legacy will be felt.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 11:29 AM

Wow, thanks for the tip about the ballad -- I'd never bothered getting to the absolute end of the DVD. Makes me feel better. :)

As for Wash, it's already stated in the Serenity visual companion that Joss considers his return a possibility, so you never know. :)

And I agree completely on Book & Inara, particularly Inara as the scenes she was included in were very out of place for her (the intense combat scenes) --- she simply did not need to be there and could have remained elsewhere while the crew went off to find Miranda. (And through all of it, we saw almost no interaction between Mal & Inara (and none of Mal's usual concern for her safety) except in the begining and ending of the movie, as if she weren't even there -- and got even fewer lines). It was completely pointless. Not to mention that without the companion training scenes that were cut, the audience is left without any knowledge as to her profession, or even why she's there in the first place. As far as anyone knows, she's just Mal's ex-girlfriend or some such. Book I can forgive somewhat, if only because I feel that the presence of the Operative was meant to fill Book's role in the film -- as an impression of what Book may have been, so we didn't technically need as much of Book. Just my take.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 11:34 AM

yo/saff/bridge naked? LOL

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Friday, April 14, 2006 12:36 PM

#1: Blue Sun, absolutely. Possibly the return of the blue handed men so we can find out what exactly they are.
#2: Inara's back story and more interaction/exposition with Mal
#3: I badly want to see how Zoe handles herself. I think there could be a lot to her character there. Whereas Mal kept flying after he lost everything in Serenity Valley, I want to see how she manages the same thing after losing something important on Miranda (this is one of the reasons, other than the obvious, that Wash cannot come back. Much as I grieve, I agree that bringing back the dead is a bad idea)
#4: Of course, what happens to River now. Is she totally sane or just more stable? And what other secrets might she know?
#5: Hmmmmmmm, I dunno. Maybe there could be a brief shot of a building that says FOX that then gets blown up? Now that I would like to see.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 1:14 PM

To borrow from another, un-related thread:
1)Kaylee
2)Kaylee
3)Kaylee
4)Kaylee
5)Kaylee

Seriously, though. I think that now that all the intros are out of the way, there's plenty more room for character development in the sequel. (And I'm with the previous posters in thinking that there's likely plenty more to explore with River, and that Miranda is likely not the only big secret in her head.)

It'd be quite shiny to have another secret of some sort revealed of course. Whether it's Inara's, Book's, or the story behind Blue Sun, or even something we don't even know about yet, I'm all manner of excited about the prospect of finding out.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 1:49 PM

Simon to wear his cool coat and glasses from the pilot

More history from the civil war

Jayne going ballistic and taking on the main bad guy/girl

Kaylee looking a cute as she did on the series

Early? Please?

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Friday, April 14, 2006 3:23 PM

I certainly agree with PhoenixRose about Zoe's reaction to Wash's death. I think there are many plotlines that could be explored with Zoe's grief, not to mention the fact she could finally get the character development she so richly deserves. I always felt she and Wash never really had enough air time.

Ranting aside, here's my top five:

1. Going more indepth with the culture and history of the verse. You can only get so much from costumes and language. I think just one scene explaining or elaborating on a significant historical event (like the war) could add so much to the story.

2. More of Jayne. Not for the usual reasons (well, not just for the usual reasons), but I think there's a lot we don't know about Jayne. His character (in a way) is designed to be one-sided, and I don't think it has to be that way. And just to show how evil I am, maybe some positive interaction (hint, hint) with River. Sorry, but I just love Rayne fics.

3. Actually doing more than just alluding to a relationship between Mal and Inara. After waiting through the entire series for them to finally admit their feelings, I don't think I'm the only one that feels screwed over regarding their characters in the BDM. Simon and Kaylee is nice and all, but Mal and Inara would be way more interesting.

4. Maybe incorporating some of the minor characters from the series into the movie. YoSaffBridge is always fun, and Badger or Niska would also be interesting.

5. Perhaps the characters could also find out more about Book's past. I know it will be hard with him dead and all, but if he really does have Alliance connections like we believe, then that could end up being a major plotline. I would give us a way to bring at least one character back without using the clone or ghost-that-only-River-can-see angles.

-Sigh- So many ideas, not enough production companies to understand the validity of them.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 4:10 PM

GREAT question:

1- Like everyone else, more BLUE SUN! What's the deal with those people?
2- I'd like to see what "normal" River's like. Her possible role as the new pilot is an interesting place to start.
3- Jayne's family. You know those people are gonna be hilarious.
4- I agree with the previous, YoSaffBridge. She's a classic and a hottie.
5- The announcement of eleventeen more sequels and a new series.

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Friday, April 14, 2006 4:13 PM

1: Least 5: Most

1: I would definitely like to see what happens to Zoe. She didn't deserve to loose Wash, but I wonder if Zoe will hold up so we can see how strong she really is.

2: Though there is interaction between Mal and Inara if you watch the deleted scenes, the actually movie had very little. We deserve more of this.

3: Humour. Apart from a couple of lines ("Define 'Interesting'" "Oh God, Oh God, we're all gonna die?"), there wasn't much of Joss's trademark wit.

4: Book. Early's line from the series "That's not a preacher" gives us more questions than any thing else regarding the 'Preacher'. We want answers! Is it just a coincidence that he came on the ship at the same time as an agent and a fugitive, both from the core planets? Anyone?

5: Simon and Kaylee. We left them beginning what will most likely turn out to be a very happy relationship. The only problem is that I can see Joss doing something horrible in a film, although he might not as he already did the leaving thing. If there was a series instead of a movie, on the other hand, Joss has a habit of killing off family characters (Buffy's Mum and Tara to name but two). For God's sake man, don't kill them off. Their time together (if they don't die) will most definitely be the only slice of true happiness left on the ship. **SNIFF** No, I'm not crying, just got something in my eye.

Oh, and I know it's against the rules, but more of the Blue Sun dudes. I call them the Gentlemen. It's a good name. The Blue Man Group was taken.

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