The 12th Planet/Nibiru/ Zacharia Stitchen/ End Time/ The Gods of Eden & the Mayan Calender/Alternative Belifes
POSTED BY: piratejenny
UPDATED: Monday, June 5, 2006 10:46
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Heya, PirateJenny,
Sorry you get all this derision when you show the simple courage to post some of your thoughts. Judging other people is something we do because we ourselves have been judged in the same way. All these folks who think your beliefs are frivolous or foolish or not even worth addressing in favor of cheap pop culture references, have themselves been judged as frivolous or foolish or not even worth addressing to the point where they don't even remember ever being so judged--it's no longer some parent's malicious opinion of them, now it's just the "way things are." They've internalized this stuff until now they simply and mechanically continue the cycle of ridicule, because it's "necessary" or because it's "the truth."
Very little has been said in the last 13 posts (Hi, Chrisisall!), but the same boring insult gets repeated over and over again. Pardon the blatant psychologizing, but I'm sick of this kind of knee-jerk malicious crap.
I'm very currious what about this material really sparks your imagination. Y'know, what in particular about this information rings true for you? When did it come together for you? Had you been thinking along similar lines before you got ahold of Zecharia Stitchen, or did the whole thing come as a surprise when you picked up his book?
My own research into this kind of material has lead me to be very skeptical of the details of the situation with the Annunaki and their ilk. Seriously, if history is written by the victors, what kind of history are you gonna get out of galactic overlords? So the part about humans being genetically engineered by these "gods" strikes me as delusions of grandeur. Like all exploiter cultures, they're not gonna do anything to us that they don't absolutely have to in order to get their way. Mind control's a lot cheaper.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
thanks for asking HKCavalier
I've always been curious about life and about human beings, about where we come from and how we got here, from a very early age as far back as I could remember at least 3 years old, I've always known that this world isn't all there is, I've had alot of diffrent experiences, but as for the religion and stories told it just never added up it never made any sense.
and because religion seems to be a large part of the ills of this world, I think every human being on this planet has a duty to seek out the truth, not just accept something because you've been told to or born into it.
My immediate family was not particularly religious, but the stories that I had always heard growing up, just didn't seem right, Joana and the Whale, Noah's ark, Adam and Eve, Jesus resurection,Heaven and Hell, I wanted answers not stories, I read a book when I was ten called "Gods from Outer space" and "Chariots of the Gods", there is so much whats called forbidden arceology, why was the Gods of the Greeks and Roman and Africans and Indians called myths, and why was the Hebrew Gods and Muslim stories based on fact, that never made any sense to me, surely if one could exist all could exist.
There have been ancient batteries, and models of planes and all kind of other things that don't seem to have a logical explantion that have been found,and then you have the stories the ancient stories themselves such as the summarians that state..and say..that the Gods they worshipped came from a planet , not earth but another planet, why would they lie?
Maybe the Gods do really exist, but not in the way we think they do, if they do exist I don't think they mean well.
actually the book I read before I read Zecharia Stitchen's books was a book called the "Gods of Eden" by William Bramley the thing I loved about that book is it layed out so many things I had already been thinking and feeling and had been reading about, but hadn't put it together or linked together coherantly,. after I read that book everything just clic
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I think the problem Jenny is that it's a wee bit too silly for people to grasp. You see planets orbit stars for a reason and that reason is gravity. The further out you go the weaker the gravity holding something in orbit becomes. For something to have an orbit that large it would have to go a very long way out from the sun, so far in fact that there wouldn't be enough of the sun's gravity left at that distance to pull it back into the solar system and the planet would just float away.
That's the nubb of the problem, if the first establishing premise of a theory is scientifically impossible then it stops being a theory and becomes myth. You may find folks willing to discuss this as myth but as a serious descussion.... no.
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Originally posted by Fletch2:
I think the problem Jenny is that it's a wee bit too silly for people to grasp. You see planets orbit stars for a reason and that reason is gravity. The further out you go the weaker the gravity holding something in orbit becomes. For something to have an orbit that large it would have to go a very long way out from the sun, so far in fact that there wouldn't be enough of the sun's gravity left at that distance to pull it back into the solar system and the planet would just float away.
That's the nubb of the problem, if the first establishing premise of a theory is scientifically impossible then it stops being a theory and becomes myth. You may find folks willing to discuss this as myth but as a serious descussion.... no.
I have only one question for you , have you read any of Zecharia Stitchen's books?
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Does he expound a new and exciting understanding of the workings of gravitation in one? If not then I dont need to read it to know it's bunk. If someone starts a book with "my family sailed to the US on the Titanic in 1921" I know from the openning sentence I'm reading fiction. Fiction dressed as fact has never interested me.
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Originally posted by LittleAlbatross:Quote:
well the reason why I bring all of this up is because some people think that Nibiru the 12th Planet in our solar system also known as planet X is going to be here in 2012
What does that mean? Is the planet going to come to Earth? Cross orbits? I'm a bit confused by the wording.
Also - is the planet X in this theory the same one that was discovered beyond Pluto (although both could be more accurately referred to as planetoids)? Or is it a new one that will be discovered in 2012?
Ok. I was serious. Can I make a joke about L. Ron Hubbard now?
well if the planet is out there and if you believe Zecharia Stitchen or the ancient Summarians, then it would be pretty safe to speculate that governments know about it, but just aren't given out the details because they are scared it going to cause a mass panic, in that respects you really can't blame them. Because you can see the potiental for a mass breakdown of what we call or consider civilzation. Some people have speculated based on the ancient mayan calendar and zecharia's calculations that 2012 is the year that Nibiru / planet x will be seen in our skies and its gravitational pull is going to cause all kinds disturbances.
But the ancient summarians talked about Nibiru/ planet X thousands of years ago, they even drew pictures of it and our solar system thousands of years ago , they already had the knowelege
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Originally posted by Fletch2:
Does he expound a new and exciting understanding of the workings of gravitation in one? If not then I dont need to read it to know it's bunk. If someone starts a book with "my family sailed to the US on the Titanic in 1921" I know from the openning sentence I'm reading fiction. Fiction dressed as fact has never interested me.
well you shouldn't go around calling something silly you have absolutely no knowlege about. actually your post is silly because its baseless, if you had read his works and and was commenting on it would at least carry some weight, but since you haven't there really isn't anything left to say!!
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Originally posted by freeradical42:
Eh, for some reason the entire scientific establishment disagrees with this. That's probably why people are attracted to it.
But pseudoscience and pseudotheology are still one and the same thing. I can say whatever I want, and it's still unconfirmable and therefore not really worth talking to other people about, you're just going to get backlash.
I could go through a whole bunch of reasons as to why there are errors with what you said in your post, but honestly you don't want me to do that and I don't want to do that to you.
If, by some chance, you do, just let me know.
"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."
not really worth talking to other people about because you say so, I think not, after all who are you?] why would you care about what I said to give reason as to why there are errors, I agree that what I said probably didn't make that much sense to anyone who isn't familar with Zecharia Stitchen's work, but that wasn't my purpose for posting this thread, it wasn't so someone could prove me right or wrong really it has very little to do with me at all, no my purpose was to discuss Zecharias work, and to have a dialogue about other views and opinions.you might have something intresting to say but from what you posted I'm sure I'd never know, and I think given an option I'd be more apt to take Mr. stitchen's insight and knowlege over yours anyday.
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reaverman wrote:
Simply put, your Planet X doesnt exist. It is a scientific impossibility.
are you sure??? would you be willing to stake your life on it!, because there are some scientist who agree that it does exist. and if it does exist idulge yourself for a few seconds, or better yet humor me, if it does exist how does that make you feel do you care if it does, or if it doesn't, does it scare you or make life seem more exciting does it change or alter your view of the world? and just why are you so quick to say its impossible.
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Originally posted by reaverman:
I'll believe it when I see it. I've already wasted enough of my life believing in "God". Bring me solid evidence that any of the alternative religions are true, and I might be inclined to believe.
You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.
its not religion its simply just knowelege.
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