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KHYRON

Friday, April 14, 2006 1:19 AM

The only thing more brainless than Piratenews's posts is people responding to them.

Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.

CITIZEN

Friday, April 14, 2006 1:33 AM

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Originally posted by Khyron:
The only thing more brainless than Piratenews's posts is people responding to them.

I think it's worth it purely for the entertainment value.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

PIRATENEWS

Friday, April 14, 2006 2:00 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:

But DU does not "burn" (oxidize) when it exits a weapon. Juicing up a story like that just undercuts your own arguments.

Looks like you blinded yourself with science. Try opening your eyes this time. Or perhaps you're suffering hysterical neuroses resulting in temporary blindness, to complement your illiteracy and brain fart.

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Abrams tank firing DU round: the depleted uranium begins burning when fired, producing a mist of poisonous uranium oxides. If an Abrams tank is fired on it will also create radioactive aerosols because the armour contains DU as well. Depleted uranium (DU) is the heavy metal which remains after the more radioactive, bomb-making uranium (isotope U235) has been extracted. This remaining metal is largely composed of U238, which is less dangerous than U235, but which is still radioactive (carcinogenic) and poisonous. In the case of US-sourced DU, which appears to be reprocessed reactor waste, it may also contain more radioactive elements such as plutonium. DU is a very dense, very heavy metal, and it is this property which has interested the military. Munitions (bombs and shells) made of DU fly further and faster than projectiles made of less dense metals such as lead. They therefore strike the target with more force, and penetrate armour more readily. On impact, the DU projectile liquefies, and the molten stream tunnels through the armour, emerging as a blast of hot metal; fine particles and vapour. This, of course, results in the immediate death of those behind the pierced armour, but the fine particles and vapour remain as a permanent threat to any who later come near.
www.big.com.au/corrdh_0404.html

DU kinetic energy penetrator ass end on fire

Uranium is one of the heaviest elements found in nature and is emits alpha, beta, and gamma particles. It is 1.7 times denser than lead.12 The half-life of U238 (DU is 99% U238) is 4.5 billion years!13 Uranium byproducts(such as Thorium (Th232)) have even longer half-lives, making uranium an element that gets more radioactive during its own decay process.5 Natural uranium is 99.274% U238, 0.720% U235, and 0.0055% U234.14a Uranium is enriched when its contents of U235 reaches 3.2-3.6% (since U235 is fissible). Weapon-grade uranium is +90% U235.14a What is depleted uranium? We start out with natural uranium and extract enriched uranium for nuclear fuel and weaponry. The leftover from the extraction process is something very similar to natural uranium, known as “depleted uranium”. The only difference is that DU has 0.202% of U235 and 0.0008% of U234.14a How much DU do we currently have? As of June 1998, we have around 57,800 huge steel cylinders of DU or 496,000 metric tons. 14b Storage of DU is very complicated and problematic since corrosion of DU storage cylinders often occurs over relatively short periods of time.15 Depleted uranium is stored as Uranium Flouride (UF6) in giant cylinders. When the projectile cuts through the armor, the DU penetrator and parts of the tank get so hot that it literally vaporizes. Anywhere from 18-70% of the DU usually oxidizes (depending on type of impact).14c For example, direct impact yields 99% oxidization. A Uranium oxide (which consists of insoluble UO2 and soluble UO3) aerosol forms, where 50-96% of the particles are less than 10 microns and hence can be inhaled easily.2 DU is extremely toxic and still contains much of the radiation that natural uranium has. For example, US Army field manuals indicate that those who handle DU contaminated vehicles or DU injured individuals must wear gas masks and protective radiological suits.14f There are at least 15-17 countries that currently possess DU ammunition (e.g. US, Britain, France, Israel, Egypt, Russia, South Korea, Taiwan, etc.)14c,13 A harmful reaction by Allied veterans to chemical, biological, and radiological effects from the Gulf War culminated into what is known as Gulf War Syndrome (part of the cause is po

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PIRATENEWS

Friday, April 14, 2006 2:20 AM

Mexican Gangsta Govt is paying for alien criminals to riot in USA, which is an act of WAR:

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Fox hires lobbyist to sweeten U.S. views on immigration

Los Angeles Times | December 28, 2005
BY SAM ENRIQUEZ

MEXICO CITY -- President Vicente Fox has rehired the Texas public relations man and GOP political consultant who quietly helped engineer his election victory in 2000. This time, Fox wants Rob Allyn & Co. to put the brakes on growing anti-immigration, anti-Mexican sentiment in the United States.

Last week, the U.S. House approved a bill to add 700 miles of border fencing and make illegal immigration a felony. Fox denounced the measure as shameful. His foreign minister called it stupid and underhanded.

''The contributions of Mexicans in the United States, who are making their best effort, generating lots of wealth, are not known,'' said Rodrigo Iván Cortés Jiménez, an elected deputy in Mexico's lower house and a member of its commission on foreign affairs.

The immigration bill, expected to reach the Senate in February, has no provision for allowing temporary Mexican workers -- a further slap, in Fox's view. He and President Bush agree on the need for a ''guest worker'' program.

Fox cannot seek reelection next year, and his legacy may rest in part on his pledges to secure an agreement with the United States to grant legal status to the millions of Mexicans living and working illegally north of the border.

So the Mexican leader last week turned to the political operative who helped him topple Mexico's longtime ruling party to win the presidency.

Rob Allyn helped George W. Bush defeat Ann Richards for the governorship of Texas in 1994. Three years later, Allyn saw another potential winner in Fox, then governor of Guanajuato state. He agreed to join Fox's presidential campaign, but only in secret.

For three years, Allyn worked clandestinely, helping craft Fox's message of change, as well as his TV commercials, his polling and his wardrobe. Allyn made dozens of trips to Mexico, traveling under one of three pseudonyms.

Fox, of the National Action Party, came from behind to defeat Francisco Labastida of the Institutional Revolutionary Party, which had ruled Mexico for seven decades. During Mexico's official campaign season in the first six months of 2000, Allyn worked with Penn, Schoen & Berland, a polling and political consulting firm. They operated Democracy Watch, a nonpartisan group hired by Mexicans to conduct national exit polls as a hedge against election fraud.

After the July election, Allyn told the Dallas Morning News he hid his work for Fox because he didn't want to be a political liability. Mexicans are sensitive to foreign interference, especially involving the United States.

Allyn, who also worked on the Bush presidential campaigns, now faces a bigger challenge with the migration issue.

Demands to stem illegal immigration are growing louder in the United States as Mexican and Central American workers spread across the country.

''Our focus is on public opinion, which influences policy outcomes in Congress,'' said Allyn, 46, who grew up in Huntington Beach, Calif., and moved to Texas when he was in high school. ``There is a huge misperception among the U.S. public about Mexico.''

Mexican Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez said Allyn's message should be that Mexicans have sunk roots deep in their U.S. neighborhoods and that they contribute more through their work, taxes and families than they take away in public services.

www.sunherald.com/mld/miamiherald/news/world/americas/13472193.htm?tem
plate=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Who'd Vicente Fox Hire to Stop Us From Building Our Border Fence?

Why, George Bush's Old PR Hack, of course!

Unabashedly Unhyphenated | December 20, 2006

Predictably, Vicente Fox's kleptocratic regime is apoplectic over the thought of the United States actually excercising its sovereignty. So, what did he run out and do right after unleashing an initial demand that we continue our de facto illegal merger

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CITIZEN

Friday, April 14, 2006 2:48 AM

Can't be sure but that looks like the projectile from a railgun, that thing falling away would be the armature. It connects the two rails which both hold a lot of current.

I imagine thats why it's burning.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

FLETCH2

Friday, April 14, 2006 2:57 AM

It's a sabotted round. It's fired from a conventional gun whick is why the outer sections, the Sabbot, are burning. After the round is fired they fall away and the internal fletchete core continues the the target.

Not a good pic for PN to use because the Sabbot itself wouldnt be DU and the core DU Fletchete would not be in contact with the explosive.

PIRATENEWS

Friday, April 14, 2006 3:28 AM

KAMIKAZE DU

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Originally posted by citizen:

Can't be sure but that looks like the projectile from a railgun, that thing falling away would be the armature. It connects the two rails which both hold a lot of current.

I imagine thats why it's burning.

If you would [* MOD ACTION: personal attacks and flaming are not accepted on these forums -- if this continues, threads will be moved wholesale to troll country and accounts may be suspended *]

it's fired from a TANK. 120mm Howitzer.

Radioactive DU munitions burn at 9,000-deg F (5,000-deg C)

The SABOTS fall away as soon as it exits the gun barrel, just like the plastic cup of pellets in a shotgun shell.

US troops are not allowed to wear antiradiation
suits while handling radiactive munitions
www.notinourname.net/war/du.html

The DU metal dart is on fire on its ass end, where it was ignited by the burning gunpowder, just like a tracer bullet, except radioactive.

Abrams tank firing DU round burning at 9,000-deg F (5,000-deg C)

This radioactive smoke is then breathed by US troops, especially those inside the tank, when they reopen the barrel to reload. When the DU dart hits a target, it melts and explodes into radioactive dust, which is then breathed by US soldiers and Iraqis - and all Europeans.

The fins ARE in direct contact with the gunpowder, which DOES ignite the "bullet" which then burns at 9,000-deg F (5,000-deg C). DU self-ignites at only 340-deg F (170-deg C)

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Is The Pentagon Giving Our Soldiers Cancer? (large photos of DU weapons and injuries)
Rolling Stone; October 2, 2003
U.S. military might relies on depleted uranium, which incinerates tanks on impact. But soldiers and civilians alike say the radioactive ammo is making them sick. DU burns at 9,000-deg F (5,000-deg C). Depleted uranium is the heaviest of metals, which results in its superior penetrating abilities; it is also highly pyrophoric, bursting into flames at temperatures of 170 degrees Celsius. To imagine the carnage, one need only recall Iraq's infamous "Highway of Death", a desert road between Basra and Kuwait's border that remains strewn with radioactive trucks, cars, and tanks. U.S. soldiers found bodies inside those vehicles that were burned in such astonishing ways that they dubbed the remains "crispy critters".
www.feedthefish.org/blog/materials/johnson.html

The fins ARE in direct contact with the gunpowder, which DOES ignite the "bullet" which then burns at 9,000-deg F (5,000-deg C). DU self-ignites at only 340-deg F (170-deg C)

Risk assessment: exposure to depleted uranium
by Dr Alex Bordujenko, MB BS, MPH, FAFPHM, for the Expert Committee to Examine Balkan Veteran Exposure to Depleted Uranium
www.defence.gov.au/dpe/dhs/infocentre/publications/journals/NoIDs/adfh
ealth_apr03/ADFHealth_4_1_06-11.html

It's the NWO's method of destroying the US military. Once that's accomplished, USA is undefended. That's one reason the US military is exported to Iraq, where it's logistically impossible to defend the Mex border.

Big Brother loves you. Go back to sleeeeeep. Drink your Flourine and eat your PAX. Breathe your DU. All is Well...

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LUNG CANCER EPIDEMIC FROM DU HAS BEGUN IN U.S.

By Dr. James Howenstine, MD.
April 6, 2006
NewsWithViews.com

In the year 2005 there were 175,000 new cases of lung cancer in the United States. The months of January and February of 2006 have already yielded 172,000 new cases of lung cancer in our nation. What has lead to this shocking new development?

Second hand smoke exposure and cigarette smoking obviously can not explain this

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CITIZEN

Friday, April 14, 2006 9:26 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
It's a sabotted round. It's fired from a conventional gun whick is why the outer sections, the Sabbot, are burning. After the round is fired they fall away and the internal fletchete core continues the the target.

Not a good pic for PN to use because the Sabbot itself wouldnt be DU and the core DU Fletchete would not be in contact with the explosive.

Then I stand corrected, though I did get PN to back up something he said with evidence, so yay me.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

REAVERMAN

Friday, April 14, 2006 4:55 PM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
[BRadioactive DU munitions burn at 9,000-deg F (5,000-deg C)

Didn't you say before that it burns at 3000 degrees farenheit?

You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.

REAVERMAN

Friday, April 14, 2006 5:06 PM

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Also, DU doesn't "ignite at over 3000 degrees F the instant it leaves the barrel". Have you ever fired a gun? I have. I have fired pistols, rifles, assault rifles, and battle rifles, and the ammunition sure as hell never got that hot then. Heat doesn't come from nowhere. The heat of a bullet comes from the ignition of the powder charge, and you can't tell me that gunpowder gets that hot.

I'm mentally retarded. PLEASE help me.

Anyone who names themself an insane cannibal ODed on SSRIs deserves their fate.

So, you've taken to altering quotes to make your arguments sound better? Funny, I don't remember saying anything about me being mentally retarded. I've never altered your quotes. Hell, I've never had to alter your qoutes. You sound ridiculous enough all by your lonesome. And, what does it matter what my screen name is?

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BTW, LEAD is the ONLY real "depleted uranium", which took billions of years to decay from uranium, but even lead is a deadly heavy metal that binds to DNA, causing cancers and birth defects.

Lead didn't take 45 billion years to come about, fool! the Earth is, at most 5 billion years old (The entire Universe is only 15 billion years old), so, by your imaginary DU deterioration timescale, DU is older than the universe itself. Do you ever get tired of contradicting yourself?

P.S. Learn to spell!!! It's Mafia, not Mafiya!

You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.