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Illegal immigration

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:16 AM

Listen you alarmist.

They start a civil war here and they will all die; all of them.

It’s our fault that this problem is a problem. In many ways a lot of companies love having the illegal around just so they can pay them peanuts. We sat on our asses for decades allowing this problem to get larger and larger, and now we want to throw them out? Stupid. Its time for this country to take some responsibilities for its actions. Make those people who are already here legal citizens, toss out the criminal elements, and actually put some real money into patrolling our borders. We should have done that after 9/11, but we didn’t so we get what we deserve. This whole thing reeks of complete politics and I hate it.

I’ve been reading some of the opinions on the internet by people who don’t think. One idiot says that we should round them all up at gun point, and march them all to the border...all 12 million of them. Yeah, that would look really good on CNN, and the whole world would really get to see our true colors. Mass relocation to solve a problem that we let get out of hand…give me a break. And Piratenews…you are such a [* MOD ACTION: personal attacks and flaming are not accepted on these forums -- if this continues, threads will be moved wholesale to troll country and accounts may be suspended *]

River

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:01 AM

PN, just stop. Everyone here thinks you are a nut. Maybe if you toned down the rhetoric and started including (yes, I'm saying it again, and I'm gonna keep saying it until you listen) EVIDENCE, us reasonable folks might not be so quick to dismiss you as a schitzophrenic idiot.

Or, you could continue to blame all the world's problems on those dastardly British-Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jews, and we can continue with the thinking you are a [* MOD ACTION: personal attacks and flaming are not accepted on these forums -- if this continues, threads will be moved wholesale to troll country and accounts may be suspended *]

You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:29 AM

Quote:


www.aztlanunderground.com

COVER OF HOT NEW ALBUM: MEXICANS SHOWN SPEARING AMERICAN "PIGS"

Lyrics
506 years of indigenous resistance
The prophecies are coming true
The redemption of the red people has come!
The 6th sun now arises
The 7th fire has arrived
Cihuatl is reclaiming
We have returned to Aztlan
We have returned to Aztlan!!!!

WE DIDN'T CROSS THE BORDERS, THE BORDERS CROSSED US YET THE SETTLER NATION LIVES IN DISGUST!!

GET THE FUCK OUT, GET THE FUCK OUT, GET THE FUCK, FUCK, FUCK OUT GET THE FUCK OUT

WASICHU [White Man] EATER OF THE FAT WASTER OF EARTH MOTHER AND PEOPLE COLONIZER OF AZTLAN AND THE WORLD GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!

www.americanpatrol.com/FEATURES/010421AZTLANRAP/FeatureAztlanRap010421
.html




That's about 1/3rd as many FUCKS as 30 seconds primetime, on MTV's Police State propaganda reality show, "Scared Straight". MTV's new job sends kids to state prison to be scolded at by large black felons screaming "FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK... FUCK...!" Jewish-owned MTV isn't allowed to play music anymore. That might make people THINK. ("F-word was NOT bleeped out on MTV)

For example, Guns & Roses "I DON'T NEED YOUR CIVIL WAR".

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Slash / McKagan / Rose
Special Thanks Niven / James

"What we've got here is failure to communicate." (KKK preacher from Porky's Revenge?)

Some men you just can't reach...
So, you get what we had here last week,
which is the way he wants it!
Well, he gets it!
N' I don't like it any more than you men.

Look at your young men fighting
Look at your women crying
Look at your young men dying
The way they've always done before

Look at the hate we're breeding
Look at the fear we're feeding
Look at the lives we're leading
The way we've always done before

My hands are tied
The billions shift from side to side
And the wars go on with brainwashed pride
For the love of God and our human rights
And all these things are swept aside
By bloody hands time can't deny
And are washed away by your genocide
And history hides the lies of our civil wars

D'you wear a black armband
When they shot the man
Who said "Peace could last forever"
And in my first memories
They shot Kennedy
I went numb when I learned to see
So I never fell for Vietnam
We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
That you can't trust freedom
When it's not in your hands
When everybody's fightin'
For their promised land

And
I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war

Look at the shoes your filling
Look at the blood we're spilling
Look at the world we're killing
The way we've always done before
Look in the doubt we've wallowed
Look at the leaders we've followed
Look at the lies we've swallowed
And I don't want to hear no more

My hands are tied
For all I've seen has changed my mind
But still the wars go on as the years go by
With no love of God or human rights
'Cause all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

We practice selective annihilation of mayors
And government officials
For example to create a vacuum
Then we fill that vacuum
As popular war advances
Peace is closer

I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
And I don't need your civil war
No No No No No No No No
I don't need your civil war
I don't need your civil war
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
I don't need one more war
I don't need one more war
Whaz so civil 'bout war

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
It only took the NWO 15 years to totally destroy Iraq, for the next 45-BILLION years, soon to be broken into 3 nations - with all the oil given to Israel (Russian Jewish mafiya), via it's pipeline now stolen from Syria. If we have another Civil War in USA, between US and Aztlan, all that DU ammo is going to render USA uninhabitable for 45-billion years...



Wow, not only have you never opened a history book, you've never even seen a science/chemistry book. DU does become radioactive when it vaporizes (tips of some armor piercing rounds vaporize on impact to melt armor), but the rate of radioactive decay is nowhere close to 45 billion years. Hell, look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki; people live there now, after only sixty years. Even with a more modern warhead that has a lot more radioactive potential, the radioactive material would decay completely in a little more than a century.

Plus, Iraq is obviously not unliveably radioactive, seeing as how there are tens of millions of people living there without dying of radiation poisoning. 45 billion years, HA!

P.S. I still think you're a [* MOD ACTION: personal attacks and flaming are not accepted on these forums -- if this continues, threads will be moved wholesale to troll country and accounts may be suspended *]

You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by reaverman:

Wow, not only have you never opened a history book, you've never even seen a science/chemistry book. DU does become radioactive when it vaporizes (tips of some armor piercing rounds vaporize on impact to melt armor), but the rate of radioactive decay is nowhere close to 45 billion years.

Plus, Iraq is obviously not unliveably radioactive, seeing as how there are tens of millions of people living there without dying of radiation poisoning. 45 billion years, HA!




USA nuked Iraq with 400,000 Hiroshima bombs
www.mattfitt.com

When I loaded nukes for 3 years, we NEVER got tested for radiation. We were never allowed to wear radiation detection film badges. I never saw any person test our bombs for radiation, especially alpha dust. There is nothing in my medical records showing radiation test results. USAF did test and confirm my loss of hearing. And all I got was this Gulf War Syndrome - no medical treatment allowed. But our base could sure spend $600,000/day on kerosine.
www.geocities.com/pentagonwhistleblower
www.raf-upper-heyford.org


F-111 supersonic swingwing robot bomber
www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-111-pics.htm
www.bunkertours.co.uk/raf_upper_heyford.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Upper_Heyford
www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/upper_heyford.htm

Now the base is abandoned at RAF Upper Heyford, turned into a new car parking lot for 1,000s of British cars that no one can afford to buy. So you Brits can drive over there and test for radiation. No airbase is USA has anywhere near the protection as US bases in Europe, where each aircraft had its own "bombproof" bunker with blast doors. Does that sound right to you?

200,000 DEAD US Gulf War soldiers, so far. 500,000 disabled US Gulf War veterans. Those are the official US govt statistics from Veterans Administration from the 15-year nonstop Iraqi War, quoted by Major Doug Rocce PhD, who was in charge of US military DU "cleanup" in Gulf War 1, before all his men died and he got cancer. Inteview last week on The Power Hour radio news, interviewed by Capt Joyce Riley, RN, TX Air National Guard.
http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/200
www.traprockpeace.org/doug_rokke_12july04.html
www.thepowerhour.com

FREE DVD for soldiers and veterans:
www.beyondtreason.com
FREE VIDEO DOWNLOAD:
www.currentera.com/blog/?page_id=506

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DU son of a US Gulf War soldier,
as seen on cover of LIFE magazine:
www.noduweapons.org



1.7-MILLION Iraqis have been genocided, so far. Massive increase in hideous birth defects, for both Iraqis and US soldiers.

Quote:


DU baby
www.voicesuk.org


100s of photos of DU babies in Iraq:
www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html



"'Depleted' URANIUM is RADIOACTIVE at all times. It decays immediately into GAMMA RAYS, X-RAYS, BETA PARTICLES, AND DEADLY ALPHA PARTICLES. It IGNITES at over 3,000-degrees F the instant it leaves the barrel of a gun, like a magnesium flare. When it hits a target it explodes into radiactive dust. Once you breathe or eat alpha radiation, it's like getting a medical x-ray every minute of your short life. DU is a radioactive heavy metal that binds to DNA. DU half life is 4.5-BILLION years, but it requires 10 half lives to reduce radiation to safe levels. DU is suicide for any soldier that touches it, even before it's fired from a gun. Even M-16 ammo is now radioactive DU."
-Major Doug Rikke, PhD, www.ThePowerHour.com Radio News
www.traprockpeace.org/depleted_uranium.html

Quote:


www.notinourname.net/war/du.html

US Govt manuals written by Major Rokke:

April 29, 2004 Memorandum for Commanders, MEDCOM major subordinate
Co

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:01 PM

Piratenews! -- All the news that’s fit to print, but not worth reading!

Top Five Most Wacko Conspiracy Theories as proposed by Piratenews:
#5. “I'm sure there are many more images online, at least until the "end of the Cold War" against fake "Communism" in the 1990s, when the CIA's Afghan freedom fighters were hired to attack the Serbs in Yugoslavia, and to play the patsies for CIA and MI6 on 9/11 and 7/7.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=19100

#4. “NOPD gunned down 5 "military contractors" on the levees in a gun battle, probably to stop Blackwater CIA from bombing more levees.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=19100

#3. “The Communist Chinese own several US ports and US naval bases in USA, plus the Panama Canal, and run US Dept of Homeland Security in the British Bahamas. The British Empire have run Communist China since winning the Opium Wars over 100 years ago.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=19727

#2. “Col Donn de Grand-pre, in his books and commissions on 9/11, quotes airline pilots and fighter pilots presenting the evidence that the airline passengers and pilots were gassed shortly after takeoff, and they were unconscious when they crashed or were shot down over the ocean and in Pensylvania, but that the jets that hit targets were robots loaded with bombs.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=19643

And the #1 Wacko Conspiracy Theory proposed by Piratenews straight from Dr. Strangelove:

“Lay off the flouride - it has the same active ingredient as antidepressants like Prozac, and was used by Nazi Germany, Commie Russia and NeoCommie USSA to keep their slaves from trying to escape genocide in the Death Camps. Then maybe you can THINK hard enough to see reality.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=19643

Most Ironic quote by Piratenews:
“I don't have to make any "case". I just report the facts and draw the obvious extrapolation based on historical reality. The ranting, theorizing and wild conspiracy theories by Citzen, Bush et al just exposes their insanity for all to see. Don't worry, USA is being ripped to shreds right before your closed eyes, so you're never see it, so it can't be real - or can it? The definition of insanity is ignoring reality.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=19643

Most Absurd statement by Piratenews:
Draft all the Mexican illegals into the US military and invade Mexico, overthrow and slaughter its Gangsta Govt like we are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, and export our democracy like we love to do. Make English the official language of Mexico, so the Mexicans will want to stay in their own fucking country. So what if millions of Mexicans are genocided? USA genocided 2-million Vietnamese, 2-million Iraqis, 10-million Germans, and 100-million Americans in USA. USA nuked Iraq with 400,000 Hiroshima bombs, and even nuked USA with 1,050 nuke bombs. NUKE MEXICO CITY, BEFORE THEY DO IT TO US VIA THE COMMIE CHINESE MILITARY AND ARABS RUNNING US PORTS VIA THE BRITISH EMPIRE. What's the big deal?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=19153

Best example of the Pot calling the Kettle black by Piratenews:
“Go ahead you traitors, keep "rebutting" facts and photos with NOTHING but preschool banter, while 80% of readers in this forum agree with the facts I post. I hope your paycheck is worth it. Not. The People aren't buyin your shit no more.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=19643

And the award for most paranoid statement goes to:
“The Jewish KosherNostra Mishpucka Mafia runs the cartel for nuke waste in USA, HQed in my hometown, who I sued in 4 class actions and filed felony charges against.”
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=19153


"History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon."
-- Napoleon Bonaparte

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:19 PM

Wow. That must have taken WAAAY too much time! But it is funny to see all the weirdness in one place, and now I don't have to wade thru PN's posts... so, thanks for that!

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:
"Depleted" URANIUM is RADIOACTIVE at all times. It decays immediately into GAMMA RAYS, X-RAYS, BETA PARTICLES, AND DEADLY ALPHA PARTICLES. It IGNITES at over 3,000-degrees F the instant it leaves the barrel of a gun, like a magnesium flare. When it hits a target it explodes into radiactive dust. Once you breathe or eat alpha radiation, it's like getting a medical x-ray every minute of your short life. DU is a radioactive heavy metal that binds to DNA. DU half life is 4.5-BILLION years, but it requires 10 half lives to reduce radiation to safe levels. DU is suicide for any soldier that touches it, even before it's fired from a gun. Even M-16 ammo is now radioactive DU.
www.traprockpeace.org/depleted_uranium.html



Wow... you are amazing. You say shit that simple common sense refutes. I know the effects of Alpha-Particles, and, if DU was emitting them constantly, our troops would be dead within 24-48 hours of inhaling or ingesting them. Seeing as how our soldiers are constantly surrounded by DU, why is our entire invasion/occupation force (and the military in general) NOT DEAD?

As for Gamma-Rays, they are emitted only in large expendatures of energy, like, say, a nuclear blast. Gamma-rays dont just fly out 24/7. X-Rays are just another form of Gamma-Ray, so the same applies to them.

Also, DU doesn't "ignite at over 3000 degrees F the instant it leaves the barrel". Have you ever fired a gun? I have. I have fired pistols, rifles, assault rifles, and battle rifles, and the ammunition sure as hell never got that hot then. Heat doesn't come from nowhere. The heat of a bullet comes from the ignition of the powder charge, and you can't tell me that gunpowder gets that hot, because, if it did, an ordinary lead bullet would vaporize as it left the barrel, never even coming close to a target. Even on those armor piercing DU rounds I've talked about, the heat has to come from somewhere. They vaporize on impact because of the impact. The amount of energy released by an object of the bullet's weight and velocity impacting, let's say, steel is enourmous. It is enough to vaporize the tip of the round, as well as the armor it hits. I'll add guns to the list of the many things you need to research before making stupid-ass remarks.

P.S. yep, I still think you're a [* MOD ACTION: personal attacks and flaming are not accepted on these forums -- if this continues, threads will be moved wholesale to troll country and accounts may be suspended *]


You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 7:36 PM

I'm a chemist... and I agree. But I was't even gonna go there because to take the time to refute PN is to give more credance to his posts than they deserve.

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Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:37 PM

So at last we have an answer.
PIRATEJEW has "Loss of hearing" confirmed by USAF.

That explains why he NEVER LISTENS.

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