Buffy vs. River
POSTED BY: VoshExeter
UPDATED: Tuesday, May 9, 2006 02:30
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Quote:Spike used broken rhythm to move into her, her style was too fixed. River adapts in a way impossible for that slayer to match, with such traditional training.
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Style seems to be unimportant. It is the ability to adapt that is important.
Remember the scene in Buffy when Spike killed the Kung-Fu slayer?
However, you're right that the ability to adapt is key.
Fan of Bruce Lee, are you?
When the opponent expands, I contract Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Style seems to be unimportant. It is the ability to adapt that is important.
Remember the scene in Buffy when Spike killed the Kung-Fu slayer?
Spike used broken rhythm to move into her, her style was too fixed. River adapts in a way impossible for that slayer to match, with such traditional training.
However, you're right that the ability to adapt is key.
But, Buffy adapts and uses her surroundings as well. Remember Spikes comments when he video'd her to study her fighting style when he first arrived in Sunnydale?
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Fan of Bruce Lee, are you?
When the opponent expands, I contract Chrisisall
Who isn't?
My personal style is extremely defensive. It can be described as attack the attackers attack. So, by definition I have to adapt constantly. Though I doubt I could pull it off anymore. Haven't practiced in a many moons.
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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki
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Quote:Sounds like Wing Chun (my most practised style).
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
My personal style is extremely defensive. It can be described as attack the attackers attack. So, by definition I have to adapt constantly.
Okay, how about this, whoever got the first throat strike in would win?
Compromising Chrisisall
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Let's start with your belief that the only time she gleams any info from one single person she gets allot from him. She doesn't just get the whole Message that was sent to Parliament from Miranda (she mouths what the girl says) she knows the location of the planet, the name of the planet. That Reavers were on that planet (actually seeing one while on Miranda) She also says she hears all those people telling her to speak for them (Firefly ep "Serenity" when we first see River jump out of the icebox she was in she tells Simon this much) and that they are saying nothing in the movie. It messes with her mind so much she actually kills someone in the institute (Session 416, the viral campaign for the movie) and makes her lose mind only to get some of it back at the end of Serenity the movie. Session 416 has much more about River. She always did love to dance.
If you remember in the episode "Objects in Space" With Jubal Early, she knew things she couldn't and with the little girl in Safe. She was deemed a witch, "Spinning Falsehoods", which weren't so false. Also she knows the Hands of Blue two by two are near when ever they see to be (Ariel). In the movie Mal said, "She's a reader, see into the truth of things...", if you read the comic you might have more info in her.
Did she look drained or tired to you? Did she even look upset by some of the thing the crew said about her? The only time she even looks like it has any affect on her is dealing with the Reavers and she looks more overwhelmed then tired she soon gets up and runs and the every reads them minutes later with, "They want us alive with they eat us."
It might seem like she is just guessing or just seeing things out of her crazy mind but she was always right. It also looks like she doesn't have a single scratch on her at the end of that fight. Mal looks like he fought an army she look like she took a brisk walk holding two very strange edged weapons but still only slightly out of breath. How could she avoid all those weapons strike and darts without some sort of help? I doubt even Buffy could do that. Hell when it was well literally hell or at least inside a hell mouth with a shiny new weapon and ten other Slayers around her she got hurt pretty bad.
As for Slayers they have visions of monsters before they are called and a sense of vampires and demons when they are near. Some slayers are stronger with the ability than others. Everyone needs to read Serenity "Those Left Behind" and should read "Fray" they are both written by Joss Whedon and very good.
In that episode where Buffy goes crazy when she reads everyone’s mind it's because she reads everyone’s mind all at once with no way to block it out. She is overwhelmed by voices that just never stop. if you had your TV on, your radio blasting and hundreds of other audio sources playing loudly wouldn't it drive you mad but you could turn off the power and end it, she had no way to shut it out. That episode was where Jonathan was in the clock tower and he was going to kill himself but it was the lunch lady wanted to kill everyone (Earshot). Just so we are clear Buffy can't read minds for long than that week in which stopped people from dying from rat poison, as for as I know no slayer has ever had the ability read minds other than in Earshot.
So with all this evidence I don't just feel I know she is Psychic but to what extent is the question.
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Originally posted by Dataless:
Let's start with your belief that the only time she gleams any info from one single person she gets allot from him.
No offense, but I stopped reading here. You got your assumptions wrong. I never said I believed this.
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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:
Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
My personal style is extremely defensive. It can be described as attack the attackers attack. So, by definition I have to adapt constantly.
Sounds like Wing Chun (my most practised style).
Looks like I reinvented something... well at least to a certain extent. Not exactly surprised. Too difficult to come up with original thoughts now adays.
*sigh* Wouldn't it be great to live in a time where we could actually come up with new shiny stuff?
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Okay, how about this, whoever got the first throat strike in would win?
LOL, I imagine that's true!
*shakes hands with Chrisisall* Truce.
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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki
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This entire conversation is only based on what we each feel. Nothing can be proven one way or another. I could give examples and all that but i don't really feel a need to prove myself. I stated my opinion. I don't care if i'm disagreed with, don't even mind a little friendly debate but there's no need to be antagonistic about it. This is why i generally don't post on forums.
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There is a possibility that River and Buffy wouldn't even fight at all. If they met each other, they might actually hit it off and go shopping or something. Or maybe do some collaborative slaying or reaver killing. A powerful duo, no question.
voshExeter
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@Kaze:
So, you're willing to post your opinion, but not ok if someone take exception to it and points out its flaws? So, you're not willing to discuss?
Why again did you post?
I'd also like you to point out where I've been antagonistic. Because from my point of view, I've just engaged in conversation. But, if you think that pointing out flaws is antagonistic, then I would highly suggest that you re-think what a debate is.
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"We're in a giant car heading into a brick wall at 100 miles/hr and everybody's arguing about where they want to sit."
-David Suzuki
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