The 12th Planet/Nibiru/ Zacharia Stitchen/ End Time/ The Gods of Eden & the Mayan Calender/Alternative Belifes
POSTED BY: piratejenny
UPDATED: Monday, June 5, 2006 10:46
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Personally, I'll be happy to wait till 2012 (assuming I'm still around) to see what happens. But this is what I think:
It's circular confirming Sumerian myth w/ bibilical references b/c the bible incorporated Sumerian myth.
I googled planet X, but I restricted my sites to .gov and .edu. If there is a conspiracy to cover it up it is an effective one. Planets' orbits are precisely calculated w/out using some unknown mass out there as a fudge factor. As to how was the solar system formed, it is all hypothetical.
I have issues with the timelines. Either the planet developed an advanced civilization a hundred million years ago in order to direct human evolution (was there enough time for that to happen?) or it happened at most two hundred thousand years ago (in which case the orbits would still be oscillating like a bell from the cataclysm).
I also have a problem with the science. Humans and chimps share 99% + genes. The major differences are not new and different genes in humans, but which genes get activated when. There is a tight genetic link between humans and chimps, so much so that humans have been called 'the third chimpanzee'. There is solid biochemical evidence for the nature of human differences from chimps (semi-aquatic). And there is a long, long line of many branches of proto-humans going back 5M years indicating evolution in that direction. So either the genetic engineering took place millions of years ago (far too long to have survived into Sumerian myth which goes back at most a few thousand years), or a mere few thousand years ago, in which case we'd see the planetary perturbations.
In either case, I'm happy to wait and see on this one.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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Quote:They looked it up on the Cuneiform Internet.
Originally posted by citizen:
How did the ancient Sumerians know about DNA?
Quote:Personally, I think we evolved from biscuits.
Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
Also I think "Hominods" are a kind of biscuit so not much chance of them being DNA compatable with humans.
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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well the reason why I bring all of this up is because some people think that Nibiru the 12th Planet in our solar system also known as planet X is going to be here in 2012
What does that mean? Is the planet going to come to Earth? Cross orbits? I'm a bit confused by the wording.
Also - is the planet X in this theory the same one that was discovered beyond Pluto (although both could be more accurately referred to as planetoids)? Or is it a new one that will be discovered in 2012?
Ok. I was serious. Can I make a joke about L. Ron Hubbard now?
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Originally posted by Hero:
Didn't this one have to do with the Cybermen?
HA! I was right. Tom Baker, 1st Season, with Sarah Jane. "Revenge of the Cybermen".
PJ is talking about Voga, the Planet of Gold or Mondas, the legendary home planet of the Cybermen.
Well, that makes much more sense now.
H
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Heya, PirateJenny,
Sorry you get all this derision when you show the simple courage to post some of your thoughts. Judging other people is something we do because we ourselves have been judged in the same way. All these folks who think your beliefs are frivolous or foolish or not even worth addressing in favor of cheap pop culture references, have themselves been judged as frivolous or foolish or not even worth addressing to the point where they don't even remember ever being so judged--it's no longer some parent's malicious opinion of them, now it's just the "way things are." They've internalized this stuff until now they simply and mechanically continue the cycle of ridicule, because it's "necessary" or because it's "the truth."
Very little has been said in the last 13 posts (Hi, Chrisisall!), but the same boring insult gets repeated over and over again. Pardon the blatant psychologizing, but I'm sick of this kind of knee-jerk malicious crap.
I'm very currious what about this material really sparks your imagination. Y'know, what in particular about this information rings true for you? When did it come together for you? Had you been thinking along similar lines before you got ahold of Zecharia Stitchen, or did the whole thing come as a surprise when you picked up his book?
My own research into this kind of material has lead me to be very skeptical of the details of the situation with the Annunaki and their ilk. Seriously, if history is written by the victors, what kind of history are you gonna get out of galactic overlords? So the part about humans being genetically engineered by these "gods" strikes me as delusions of grandeur. Like all exploiter cultures, they're not gonna do anything to us that they don't absolutely have to in order to get their way. Mind control's a lot cheaper. 
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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All I did is ask how the Ancient Summarians knew about DNA.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.
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Eh, for some reason the entire scientific establishment disagrees with this. That's probably why people are attracted to it.
But pseudoscience and pseudotheology are still one and the same thing. I can say whatever I want, and it's still unconfirmable and therefore not really worth talking to other people about, you're just going to get backlash.
I could go through a whole bunch of reasons as to why there are errors with what you said in your post, but honestly you don't want me to do that and I don't want to do that to you.
If, by some chance, you do, just let me know.
"See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like."
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I addressed it seriously w/out derision. I just don't think it's true. But asking about what rings true - I see I missed an opportunity to learn and share.
Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I've already wasted enough of my life believing in "God". Bring me solid evidence that any of the alternative religions are true, and I might be inclined to believe.
You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.
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I was being serious. Maybe my reading comprehension skills are shot (which is a possibility) but I don't understand how planet X will arrive here. And I was legitimately asking for an explanation because I am curious and don't have time to do research on it at the moment.
The joke at the end was just a joke about the jokes - I don't know how anyone could start a thread on this sort of subject matter and not expect them.
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