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Jayne and Kaylee

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UPDATED: Sunday, April 23, 2006 18:15
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Friday, April 7, 2006 8:00 PM


I screwd this up and didn't hit "reply with quote"...so as someone else so eloquently put it

"But Kaylee's lusty enough to have multiple interests, even if she cares about Simon. We've seen that in more than a few episodes.

Now, Jayne not only represents the more masculine and physically strong, but also has that bad-guy allure. If anyone was going to split off his own way and become a bad-boy later in Joss's storyline, it would have been Jayne. "

I couldn't agree more. In end, I think Simon wouldn't be enough for Kaylee.

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Friday, April 7, 2006 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by Fert1:
I don't think it can be argued that Jayne ONLY saw Kaylee as a little sister, since Joss, the series creator, says that Jayne has a crush on Kaylee.



Sure, but who doesn't have a slightly more than platonic crush on Kaylee. I think even Mal, with all his preoccupations, would be hard pressed to label Jewel as a mere prettifying accessory. (In fact, we know for mostly sure that Mal hired Kaylee because of her exprtise in the field... and her spirit; which is happy-go-lucky.

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I think Kaylee has a certain fondness for Jayne as she does everyone on the ship. It's just who she is. No one but Joss can say for sure, but I suspect Joss just adores the unrequited love.


No arguments here; but don't you think those two could shape up to be a really *interesting* pair of unrequited love. Just for a little while. Jane and Kaylee in a romance is like a clubfoot dancing with a ballerina. Amusing, at least. Worth the writing for sure.

-the end.

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Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:26 PM

I found somthing else to me thinking they have no hints of getting hooked.
As soon as I said those words I wished i could take them back. Jayne isnt the one i should be pooring my soul out to.All hell do is tease

Someday the verse will spit in your soup but at least they gave you soup.

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Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:51 PM

Jayne doesn't deserve Kaylee.

[spoilers for Dead or Alive follow]

Hell, he couldn't even bear to part with his gorram stupid turtle for her when she needed some cheerin' up.

And it's Kaylee so you know the turtle really would have cheered her up. Especially combined with the gesture, coming from Jayne who clearly loved it.

It's funny really. I've never bought into Jayne and Kaylee, but if he'd given her that stupid turtle, I think I'd have been forced to reconsider... As it turns out, he just proved my point.

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Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:18 PM

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I just don't think it was there to begin with.



Well, I think it is clearly there on Jayne's part. Whether it was there on Kaylee's part could potentially be argued. We may never know what would have happened (which is where the fun of fanfic lies). And besides it was television. People never stay together in television! Viewers don't actually like it, no matter what they might say.

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I think that is what turns me off on SO many J/K fics because they all take the characters so out of character that I just don't believe it could happen.



This is interesting because I've always thought that many of the J/K fics were the best out there as far as characterization. Now I will agree that not all of them are. And to me one mark of a good J/K fic (or any non-canon relationship fic) is how they get rid of the other person (in this case Simon). As much as I like J/K, I don't like to see Simon portrayed as out of character just to get him out of the way. However, it can also be said that more than a few S/K fics have weak characterizations, making Simon and Kaylee both so sweet it's a bit much to take. Also making Simon practically abandon River just for Kaylee (which we all know isn't going to happen, it's just not in him). I think Simon is a bit darker than many people portray him in fics and Joss might eventually have gotten around to that. For example, what would Simon do if it was a question of choosing between River and Kaylee (in a life-saving type of situation)?


Just a few thoughts, didn't mean to rattle on so much.

-squish

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Friday, April 21, 2006 3:50 PM

Jana, I still can't find the gorram interview but I did find a video clip It looks like it was taken at a convention, and it's pretty short.



Hope that works.

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Friday, April 21, 2006 4:07 PM

I like Jayne don’t get me wrong. But I really like Kaylee and I don’t think Jayne’s good enough for her. He’s a liar, a dog, and a traitor. Every time I see a post about this I always think “Hey! What’s wrong with Simon? He’s a nice guy.” I like how Simon is a blundering idiot in social situations and I like how Kaylee is nonstop sweet. It’s a match made in heaven its also one of the best parts of the story so like, STOP TAKING IT AWAY FROM ME!

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 1:19 AM

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Originally posted by JynnanTonnyx:
Jana, I still can't find the gorram interview but I did find a video clip It looks like it was taken at a convention, and it's pretty short.



Hope that works.

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OMG! Thank you for that! He is just too cute for words!

-squish

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:29 AM

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Originally posted by JynnanTonnyx:
Jana, I still can't find the gorram interview but I did find a video clip It looks like it was taken at a convention, and it's pretty short.



Hope that works.

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OMG! Thank you for that! He is just too cute for words!

-squish



Ain't he Try searching for "Adam Baldwin" in you tube - there is only a few hits but they're pretty good.

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 4:07 AM

I'm aware of this interview:-
http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=interviews&id=4546
where he refers to Jayne being from a middle-class background. I think the other you're thinking of is the one from StarLog magazine. I don't have a link for that one, but I do have scans of the interview.

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"I would bring things down to, 'What drives this guy sexually?' That's interesting to watch, and I tried to play that Inara (Morena Baccarin's beautiful high-class prostitute) is the ideal woman for Jayne. I said to Joss, 'Jayne has a crush on Inara.' Joss replied, 'No, you don't!' I said, 'Well I'm going to play it that way.' I don't know how much it actually comes across in the movie, but that's what I tried to do. Anytime Inara was in the same room as me, I tried to convey that attraction."
In the early days of Firefly Jayne was supposed to have a romantic interest in Kaylee (Jewel Staite), the ship's mechanic. "I was aware of that, but I always thought of Kaylee and Jayne as having more of a sister-brother relationship," says Baldwin. "She's like Jayne's needling little sister. Inara, on the other hand, oozes sex. I thought a dynamic between Inara and Jayne would be an interesting undercurrent, and if I was to play it in scenes with Mal, it would be somewhat more dangerous and raise the stakes. But this is all 'actory' stuff, subtexturally, that I wanted to lay in. It's really a backstory in my mind, though not necessarily in Joss' or Morena's."



See? Even Adam was aware of Jayne's interest in Kaylee on the original show. It was obviously something that Joss particularly wanted, and had discussed as being part of that character's motivations.

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