Seryn , Kellys and Serenity's corset, Tshirt and costume talky thread - drooling only upon application
POSTED BY: seryn
UPDATED: Monday, July 24, 2006 12:16
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whoah.
They are, well. Very cool, but not at all what I was expecting. Very funny as well. Very Brom. Wow, i'd love to be able to make tham like that. They are very drools worthy i'm sure, so we'll forgive you this once Jadehand.
So did you speak to the girl who made them? Or the bloke even. How did they start doing stuff like that?
And the map one sounds very funny, I've seen underwear before now with that kind of thing on it (not for a while though, need to print our own I think) but funny.
Oh, jealous now!
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That stand was the one with the very best corsets. They were quite well made, and came in a variety of fabrics and leathers (they had more normal ones, too) and much more boning than the other places.
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Fao Tristan - Pictures, what I was trying to do, and what mess i actually ended up with. Giggle away, but it is the hope that one day I can finish it PROPERLY.
What I was attempting was some kind of fairy costume where it looked like he's moulded armour out of beetle wing cases, so I decided to go with leahter with dimple patterns worked into it, and painted with an edge of bright duochrome(?) colour. Well, my tracking down of the paint died when I found that although industrial paintshops had them, the paints wern't easily available to the likes of me, and the one steady supply of leather I could find wanted £11 sqft. which I couldn't do.
So in the end, desperate to have something to show, and unable to wrestle enough space away from the pigs in the workshops to start banging some metal into shape, I ended up modling it in buckram and covering it in scraps and carpaints. It went WRONG. And don't even ask about the straps holding it on, they stretched, they snapped, it all went to hell. My machine would sew a double non stretchy layer, but only for about an inch before it gave up and the needle broke, the industrial, no matter how much paper tape and oil I used to try and stop it, just kept gathering the top layer and distorting the bottom. I screamed, I ranted, I tried to get back to the shop for real leather, it was closed, I ran out of time and ended up hand sewing single layers, the result of which you see before you.
Bah, but one day I will complete it, I hate the fact that I knew I could do it, I was just anable to find the right methods in the time I had. I think thats my issue, i've never liked experimenting, i need a preset goal and want to know the correct method of doing things. I much prefer to learn all of the 'rules' and then when I'm confident and producing quality stuff, then I feel better about breaking all of those rules and going crazy with the experimenting. Its the fight i've been having with my schools and tutors for my entire education, their attitude is always 'go of and work it out for your self' and mine is always 'no, you are paid to be a teacher, friggin' teach'. Ah well, but I will complete it, and add the belt, the boots and the other bits. I'll even work out a way of doing the wings. And then I'll probably just flog it all on ebay cause I have no room to store it.
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*Pokes head in thread, looks around, sees his name at the top of a post*
Must be for me!
The idea is fantastic! Even if you didn't get to do it the way you wanted, it still turned out looking good! The concept is cool; I especially like the wing roots. The colors are great, the actual constructed pieces look good, as well.
Straps do look like they are thin...I found early on to use thicker leather for straps, and punch the smallest hole possible in them. Stay away from suede for straps, as it stretches way out of shape when you put stress on it. (You may already know that.)
Judging by the pictures and the rest of this thread, you have had a few years experience costuming. So that we understand each other, and I don't come across talking at you rather than to you, how much experience do you have? To let you know a bit about my costuming(so we will be on the same page), I was a "professional" theatrical costumer for almost fifteen years (various outdoor dramas, university dinner theatres, and Ren faires as producer, actor, director, and fighter/choreographer), and spent all the spare time I could in the costume shop at the university (I started there in 1989...that makes me old). I also designed and built most of the costumes for my wedding, including my wife's fitted-bodice gown. I have not yet constructed a corset, but that will eventually happen (...ok, maybe it will happen...). My work in leather you know about...but I have never created something like you have planned here. I would love to see it built they way you have envisioned! I will guide in any way I can!
If you are interested, I will upload a few pictures of the stuff I have done and put them somewhere you can get to.
Thank you for sharing that with me, it is absolutely gorgeous.
Holding until you get back, Captain.
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Thank you.
I have to admit, before I put it all together I didn't think it was going to gel, but it did, I was so pleased. I wanted dark, but I din't want black, and I wanted the colours to be deep with only the occaisional flash of brilliant green or blue or purple. The wings would have been beautiful, will be beautiful, I'm still working on ways to make the frames, the solder I could work with wasn't strong enough, so its finding a safe environment to set up a blow torch! What I intended to do was to make wire vein like frames, and then create smaller 'cells' with coloured latex or some kind of sealant type silicone (I need to play and find out which would work best) That way it would actually look like an insects wings, and it would be flexible so that they could fold down against the back. The prongy bits at the back where supposed to be the protecing bits for the wings (if your a flying creature in a tussle, I figured they'd be a magnet for sharp n pointy things, so they be best with some kind of protection) I didn't post the design of the wings, but they were very Brian Froud in style. Very cool.
but there you go.
As for experience, professional?
Er, not much at all really.
I did costume production as a bachelors degree, the piece above was my elective, the big final project. And yeah, If I can replace the straps and rivet them properly, then manage to get the armour going, i'll be showing everyone I possibly can, i'll probably carry them round in my purse like baby photos. Before college I helped out when I could in am dram groups, thpough the lack of standards (not to mention time and money) was a little frustrating, (and it only took about half an hour of being drenched in the panto dame's sweat to make me realise that dressing probably wasn't a good career choice for me!) I did several shows, a couple in londons west end, as part of the course, and then moved back up to liverpool. I'm still sending volunteering applications regularly, I've even managed to corner one of the wardrobe managers but to no avail.
One thing I hope to start doing very soon is working with a local samba school, helping make carnivale costumes (like Rio) so fingers crossed, they are bidding for contracts and sorting budgets and i'm waiting to hear back from them. So ask me again in a few months and i'll be able to tell you that I have some professional experience! 
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FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
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Sounds like you know what you are doing! I should have kept up with it, but the real world ambushed me, and dragged me kicking and screaming into the 9-5 world...and unfortunately, I like it here. Do all you can do with what you love, but when it turns into a job, it might no longer be fun...
Yes, I want to see that when it is done. I had played with the idea of building wings, but never once thought to incorporate them into armor...brilliant idea. With ideas like those, you will be going places...thought about WETA? 
When you do get the Samba contract (note, not if but when), keep me posted on your progress!
Holding until you get back, Captain.
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yes, once I have a skill to offer them (beyond the basics) I will be flying to NZ and turning up at the workshops, where I shall not leave until they give me something to do.
(and, um, then stay and do it. so basically not leave)
And thank you again, but you have to stop, you're making me blush.
As a note of interest, did you see the corsets from the ren faire further up? They are petty cool, they look moulded, I take it they are leather, have you any idea how they would have been done?
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Seryn, I think that looks awesome! I can picture in my head from your descriptions how you wanted it to turn out (and it looks AMAZING) but I think what you ended up with was very good! I'm quite impressed. Armour seems very very ambitious to me.
Girl's got talent!
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Blushing is good. I remember seeing it mentioned above that only some men look good in red, but all women look good with a slight blush 
I did look at the corsets. Yes, they do look molded, but I am not entirely sure. I do know that most leather can be soaked in water (or wax) and formed wet. When it dries, it retains the shape you put it in, but you do have to have forms to put it on while it dries. It works better on the mid-range thickness leathers (4-8oz). I have only done something like this once, and it was not all that successful. I did it without researching, and discovered why research is important; turns out the leather shrinks significantly when it dries. I do not remember the ratio off the top of my head, but it's out there somewhere. If you have time, look up something called "cuir bouli" (which is what the armor version of this is called), it might lead you to some helpful visuals. If you do decide to do this, let me know how it works for you!
Holding until you get back, Captain.
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aw shucks 
yeah, i managed to find a site with some basic 'how-to's' on it, it mentioned shrinkage.
so embossing, you wet it, does that mean you have to account for shrinkage? do you need to stretch it once wet, or is there something you can treat it with? (the page was very basic)
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Hodgins: Your robot reminds me of you. You tell it to turn it stops. You tell it to stop it turns. You ask it to take out the garbage it watches reruns of Firefly.
FozzieWash, You know what I always say: sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug!
KermieMal, I never Know what the heck you're talking about.
FozzieWash, Hey, look! They're sending us free lumber!
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