Season 2 Picking up where Season 1 Left off (if possible)

POSTED BY: Cathera
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:59
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CATHERA

Monday, April 10, 2006 11:34 AM

I know there has been great discussion about if we get a Season 2, where to start. Before the movie or after. I say before because of this.

I watched Serenity this weekend, twice. The beginning is Simon getting her out of the Alliances medical facility. BEFORE they are on Serenity. The episode "Serenity" has them boarding the ship for the first time. AFTER he broke her out. So there is a jump in the movie that is what the series was about.

So why couldn't we have the series pick back up before the movie happened? I mean there's always Season 3 for Book and Wash to be gone because of the movie. And besides we know why Inara left from the series but we didn't find out why Book did. I'd like to see that, maybe find out why the Alliance was so willing to heal him, and see some of the adventures where Serenity had to hide out on Book's planet.

What do you think?

Under a Blag Flag We Shall Sail

PHOENIXROSE

Monday, April 10, 2006 11:41 AM

I so, so completely agree. I guess the comic book fills in Book leaving (I'm looking for it) but it would be nice to *see* it. And all the stuff Joss talked about wanting to do "at a later date" in comentary, etc. including Book's past and explaining, say, what was in Inara's little box in the pilot and Blue Sun and finding out just what those blue-handed men *are*... I mean, right now I just have theories on SO MANY things and I would love to see what it was actually meant to be.

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SADLITTLEKING

Monday, April 10, 2006 5:15 PM

I actually have mixed feelings about this. While it would be nice to see everything that happened between the end of the show and the beginning of the movie, I'm not sure I want to go back there. Do we really wanna see Kaylee pining over Simon again when we know they got together? Do we really wanna see Book chased off by Mal even though we know Book's fate? Can we really stomach seeing Zoe and Wash so happy together after knowing what happens there? And I don't know about you guys, but I'd like to not go back to seeing River as a basketcase.

I certainly wouldn't mind if Joss wanted to go back and tell the stories that happened in between the show and movie, but I'd prefer he just moved forward from where Serenity ends. I already know what happened before, I'd like to see where we go from here.

ZZETTA13

Monday, April 10, 2006 5:29 PM

Hey guys it does seem a little confusing but,

Whos to say that it was Serenity that picked up the Tams as they made their escape from "The special hell" cooked up by Key Members of Parliament.

Could have been a different ship. Even a different Firefly

Z

SADLITTLEKING

Monday, April 10, 2006 5:36 PM

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Originally posted by zzetta13:
Hey guys it does seem a little confusing but,

Whos to say that it was Serenity that picked up the Tams as they made their escape from "The special hell" cooked up by Key Members of Parliament.

Could have been a different ship. Even a different Firefly

Z

It wasn't Serenity that picked up Simon and River at the beginning of the movie. In the series pilot, Simon explained that he paid some men to help him break River out of the Alliance facility. That's what was shown at the beginning of Serenity. Simon and River never actually boarded Serenity until the series pilot. The escape scene at the beginning of the movie was simply to inform those who've never seen Firefly on a bit of the background of why Simon and River are wanted by the Alliance. It was also a good way to introduce the Operative which was a scene that was important to the story (the Operative mentioning that River was in a room with key members of Parliment with that connecting to River knowing about Miranda).

SHINEYSHINDIG

Monday, April 10, 2006 5:47 PM

I'm with sadlittleking.. it would make more sense to move forward, since we'd know what already happened in Serenity's time period.. A lot could be done in terms of flashbacks, dreams, dare I say 'visions' that could also help tell backstories and fill in the voids..
Sure, I'd love to see things continue the way they ended in season one, but by doing so would diminish the value of the BDM and again, we'd know the fate of two of our BDH's..

"...use of a swhat??"

FREDGIBLET

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:53 AM

I think that would make more sense for Firefly to have a "season 1.5" between the final ep and the movie to fill in the gap and then move on to after the movie. However, that being said I hope that they do not do it that way. I agree with the people who say that it would be kind of hard to know what is going to happen, but I don't think it would be that hard.

The problem with moving the show after the the movie is simple: a lot of the plot threads have been concluded. River is (more) sane, Simon and Kaylee are together, the Alliance has other things to take care of besides the crew, most of the crews contacts are dead, Book is dead, the Reavers are probably greatly reduced in number, and Mal and Inara have at least begun to show their affection. That being said there are more threads that have been opened up: River can probably figure out most of the stuff floating around in her head now, Zoe has issues to work through now, River must now build new relationships with each of the crew members, the crew might just be famous now, etc.

Personally, if it were up to me I would set it up like this: the first new episodes would be the last third of season 1 (making for a 21 ep season), these eps would take care of Inara leaving among other things, the second season would deal with the increasing feelings of hostility between Mal and Simon (that culminate in the movie) and the increasing pressure in the Alliance to recover River, Book would leave about halfway through and the movie would go between seasons 2 and 3. The third season would deal with the changes with River, the Alliance and Zoe. The rest of the seasons would depend on what happened in season 3.

Anyway thats just my take.

CATHERA

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 1:59 AM

While all that is true I want to see what the men with blue hands was about. It wasn't in the movie and it was explored more than once in the series. And where did the animosity between Simon and Mal come from? Things like that I want to see in a series. Which is why I say season 2 before the movie.

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PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 2:56 AM

Yeah, I can understand it being maybe frustrating or sad to see things we know the outcome of, but think of all the future little browncoats who wouldn't see the movie before the series. The series could go on from where it left off, like fredgiblet describes, then everything could still culminate in the movie. Then it could be packaged as a series with the movie at the end and we could all have a continuous story to enjoy and pass on to a new generation of browncoats. That idea just makes me very very happy.

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DANIELFYRE

Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:04 AM

Why would the series have anything to do with the movie...? I mean think about it if Firefly did in fact come back to television they could disregard the movie completely and it can act as its own seperate entity. Joss can go back and rewrite everything. Who knows maybe Book stays around? or maybe he leaves but to a different location just to make it clear that the movie, while associated with the series didn't exist along the same lines of the series. I personally would like it if it went back to where we left off and just went in a new direction completely forgetting about the movie and the events in it. Have the events maybe come but retell it in a way that the movie is not needed for the story line. IE have River find Miranda another way. etc. etc. This is what I would like to see but I doubt it. I did like the BDM very much but I think the way it started and ended if Firefly were to ever come back to television the movie would in fact end up hurting the series due to the gaps and confusion.

-Dan

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