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War on sickness

POSTED BY: SergeantX
UPDATED: Thursday, April 27, 2006 20:46
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Sunday, April 9, 2006 10:40 PM

Wow, lucky SgtX - a new $2,500/year "tax" - that's given away to a private monopoly.

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The Massachusetts legislature approved a bill Tuesday that would require all residents to purchase health insurance or face legal penalties. Gov. Mitt Romney (R) supports the proposal, which would require all uninsured adults in the state to purchase some kind of insurance policy by July 1, 2007, or face a fine. All residents will have to provide details about their health insurance policy on their state income tax returns in 2008. Those who do not have insurance would first lose their personal state tax exemption, perhaps worth $150, and later face penalties equal to half the cost of the cheapest policy they should have bought. That might work out to $1,200 per year, officials said. Those who cannot find an affordable plan could obtain a WAIVER.
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/04/AR20060404019
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Note the word WAIVER... That's legaleze for NOT mandatory. Funny how the Media Mafia buried that fact in the fine print instead of the headline.

So what happens to sick people who are already classified by private insurance companies as "uninsurable". Translated: "unprofitable". It's only profitable for insurance companies to take money from healthy people, then cancel their insurance when they get sick and file a claim. Car insurance and home insurance companies already play this scam.

So "uninsurable" folks are granted immunity to this Mass law? That would render the entire law void under Constitutional Equal Protection doctrine.

For example, I'm injured with Gulf War Syndrome and its related diseases of FMS/rheumatism, chronic fatigue (paralysis), etc, all documented by my private doctors when I could still work and buy insurance. Then I was in too extreme pain to work, so I got the socialized medicine called TennCare. Some doctors and hospitals REFUSED to treat me with that "insurance", since it only paid 10-cents on the dollar. To quote one doctor (Jewish), "If I perform this colonoscopy on you, I will lose money". So he doped me out and faked the operation, then never billed TennCare, so he saved money and kept his profitable TennCare contract (apparently such scams are routine). Then TennCare cancelled my insurance along with almost everyone elses, but certainly kept billing the taxpayers hundreds of millions of taxdollars.

Tennessee's CanniBill Frist MD was criminally convicted and paid an $840-MILLION fine for Medicare/Medicade fraud at his family's Hospital Corporation of America (the world's largest Death Camp monopoly), so he was promoted to Speaker of US Senate in his freshman year. Frist is on record as bragging that "it only costs $100,000 to genocide 1-million people." Frist celebrated his first election victory with all the top RepubliCONs like loser Bob Dole, at Cotton Eyed Hos country music nightclub, in Knoxville TN, owned by an Arab under indictment for terrorism, money laundering and concealing stolen property (who pled guilty after the election). Frist made his fortune cutting beating hearts out of living people, and adopting animals from shelters to torture them to death. And he wants to be YOUR president in 2008.
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I have to be quick. About a tenth of a percent of... the population had the opposite reaction to the PAX. Their aggressor response increased beyond madness. They have become...
(smashing down door)
Well, they've killed most of us. And not just killed... they've done things.
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Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:09 PM

Learning to sew up a torn jacket: $40.
Learning to sew up a torn arm: $750,000.
The look on the insurance company's face when they pass that Massachusetts Compulsory Insurance law nationwide: priceless.

Chrisisall, a Massachusetts cog

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RUE
Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:09 PM

PirateNews
Just to be clear, I would not trust the current administration with public health care under ANY circumstances.


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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RUE
Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:21 PM

ChrisIsAll

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Learning to sew up a torn jacket: $40.
Learning to sew up a torn arm: $750,000.
The look on the insurance company's face when they pass that Massachusetts Compulsory Insurance law nationwide: priceless.

Sad, but true. Big-business medicine, BLEAHHH !!!


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:51 PM

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Health insurance MAY be mandatory in Mass

Plan would offer free or subsidized coverage to those who cannot afford it

April 4, 2006

The measure does not call for new taxes but would require businesses that do not offer insurance to pay a $295 annual fee per employee.

The cost was put at $316 million in the first year, and more than $1 billion by the third year.

The House approved the bill on a 154-2 vote. The Senate endorsed it 37-0.

www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12156882/


That's a healthy tax increase for people who can barely pay bills as it is. I'm sure most of the profits go to overpaid drug dealers, who kickback those profits for bribes to politicians, to pass laws to prohibit import of cheap drugs.

But of course, this law will not be applied to employers of illegal aliens, giving them an unfair advantage, and putting legit businesses out of business.

I especially like the lie that this is not a "new tax" of $2,500/year.

The scariest part is the percentage of idiot politicians who voted for it.


poly ticks: many blood-sucking creatures.

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Sunday, April 9, 2006 11:57 PM

PN, if you are a business employing 10 or more people you are expected to provide some kind of health cover. If you dont you get fined $295 per uninsured worker. The worker doesnt pay $295 in additional taxes.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:

PN, if you are a business employing 10 or more people you are expected to provide some kind of health cover. If you dont you get fined $295 per uninsured worker. The worker doesnt pay $295 in additional taxes.



That's $250/month per employee, and yes it does come out of the employee's paycheck. That why the "withholdings" are so high. Many people already pay $1,000/month or $2,000/month for "company health insurance". Suckers.

$295 annual fine will also be deducted from the employee's paycheck. That's what bookkeepers are for, to cook the books (book-cookers?). Most companies already illegally force hourly employees to work "off the clock", for free. At the very least, cancel or delay a pay raise, cancel a bonus, fire an employee. Note that the $295 fine is $2,200 less than paying for insurance, so millions of employees will still be denied insurance under this SCHEME.

Socialism/Communism pretends money materializes out of thin air, which is does if you include the private intl Fed Reserve Bankster counterfeiting scam for all "US dollars". Except the Fed then gets the mortgage on your slave carcass, and forcloses ("privatizes") all Govt property (YOUR property), leaving YOU with $200,000 debt (the current Federal Debt per US citizen).

The problem with Govt employees is they never PRODUCE anything. That's why 100-million slaves starved to death in Commie Russia and Commie China. But that's The Plan...

I predict that in a couple of years, Mass will be a disaster, with 30% kicked out of this insurance scam as "uninsurable" because they got sick and made a small claim, just like they did in Tennessee's oxymoronic govt insurance scam, TennCare. During that same time, Tennessee Gangsta Govt pays its college football coaches $2-million/year, its college presidents $750,000/year (plus their own private UT jet), (but college professors are paid $3,000 to $6,000/year max), its lottery private contractors $750,00/year, and MASSIVE contract fraud on virtually EVERY govt no-bid cost-plus blank-check multimillion-dollar contract.

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RUE
Monday, April 10, 2006 12:06 AM

Fletch2 -

Mandatory private health insurance - that follows the current p/c insistence on spending tax money on privatized services, just like the wildly effective and efficient Medicare drug policy - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ....

It would be unthinkable to just set up the damned clinics and be done with it.

Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 12:11 AM

PN "Annual fees" mean once a year..... and it's a fine, if you pass on a labor fine to an employee you go to jail, it's called false accounting.

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Monday, April 10, 2006 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Fletch2 -

Mandatory private health insurance - that follows the current p/c insistence on spending tax money on privatized services, just like the wildly effective and efficient Medicare drug policy - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ....

It would be unthinkable to just set up the damned clinics and be done with it.

Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.



You're right it would be. Fact is Rue that if you decide to hold your breath until someone established universal care in the US you will turn very blue. So what do you do? Hold out for the best option, which you never get and watch people die for your principles or do you go with the imperfect solution that stands some chance of saving lives?

This falls far short of universal care funded by taxation and already Sarge is afraid that it's restricting his rights. What chance do you think you stand of getting anything better?

It's a question. How many uninsured are you willing to kill for ideological purity?

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