Firefly & Cowboy Bebop
POSTED BY: ianw
UPDATED: Sunday, April 9, 2006 22:18
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I do, but I also understand the comparison.
There have been a lot of times when something about some show reminds me of Firefly.
Sometimes all it has to be is music. My sister even commented once on a show we were watching - not Firefly, not even Sci-fi, in fact, I don't recall now what it was, except the opening strains of soundtrack on the scene made her say,
"That sounds very Firefly."
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I would say Cowboy Bebop is very similar in theme if not details.
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the thing thats interesting about Bebop is that it is set 400 years before Firefly but its technology is about 100 years more advanced
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Cowboy Bebop is an awesome show! The character of Spike is one of the coolest characters ever created. The stories were brilliant and the one with the clown character that underwent massive government experimentation was sublime genius!!!
The music was always a strong feature and the theme music for me is the single greatest theme tune ever written.
It was a show made out of love no doubt.
There are some similarities but the characters of Cowboy Bebop and Firefly are very different.
Both great shows and yes those of us who love Firefly will find a comforting show in Cowboy Bebop
Give it a try.
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I haven't seen the whole Cowboy Bebop series, just the movie (the guy at Kim's Video says the series is much better) BUT the character of Eddie reminded me a LOT of River.
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Originally posted by shinyseven2:
I haven't seen the whole Cowboy Bebop series, just the movie (the guy at Kim's Video says the series is much better) BUT the character of Eddie reminded me a LOT of River.
You are so right. I never thought of the similarity between the two characters. Though I think Edward is a tad less angsty.
Since we're talking about the extreme similarities between the shows, does anyone know if Joss acknowledges Cowboy Bebop as an influence on Firefly? It would be interesting to find out.
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Originally posted by Channain:
Titan A.E. as well. There's a scene in that movie that is practically an animated blue-print for the landing on Perspehone in the BDM.]
i had totally forgotten about Titan AE....(guess i never put that together with Joss), but this is so true....i always got a kick out of seeing Firefly land...it really looks like a goofy albatross and Titan was just like that....ok so, something else to look at again.... thanks Channain, good eye
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When I first was watching Firefly back in 2003 (pirated, yarr... this be 'fore the DVD's yet after Fox sank her), my roommate commented that it was very Cowboy Bebop-esque. Though, in a positive way.
There are a lot of great ways to cross over Science Fiction and Western. You got that longing for independence and the Frontier, transplanted to a future setting that can be based off of how things are now. Cowboy Bebop did that well, and Firefly did that superbly. But, both did do that in very different ways.
I think folks who are all about accusations of plagiarism are cheating themselves. It's sad; trying to figure out who ripped off whom won't just waste your time, but will waste your enjoyment of what could be a great series. ...then there are the Japan-purists who think anything from Japan is holy, and anything from the West which remotely resembles it is profane; I'm not going there, 'cause I hope I don't have to.
But yes, I think Firefly fans who haven't yet seen any of Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, or Outlaw Star might find they enjoy all of those. KF
(spoiler about Cowboy Bebop)
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Ok, I never actually saw much of CB, truth be told (or Trigun, or Outlaw Star). But a year or so ago, at an anime convention, I was chatting with a group of friends at the back of the cosplay theater. One of them gets an idea for a sketch:
"Ok, we get all the props together, everyone dresses up like a CB character, we have a great musical opening, then when we get on stage, we drop the props and just say: 'Spike dies at the end'. Curtain"
At that moment, girl in front of us turns around, wide-eyed. Saying something to the effect of: "You guys suck! I didn't see it all yet! ...I even named my dog after Spike... ... ... You guys suck!" KF
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Actually, when I first saw commercials for FireFly, I was very much under the impression that someone was making a live action Cowboy Bebop spin/rip off. It's unfortunate that both programs share such a short lived glory, I'd like to see more of both.
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For those of you who don't know about it, there is a nice site that collects all the anime episodes on youtube into their constituent series. it's pretty gorram useful if the show's don't air where you live .
http://www.keiichianimeforever.com/anime/onlineanime/series.html/en/co
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Well Cowboy Bebop was meant to be a two season cartoon from the beginning, just like Trigun and many other Japanese animes. Its just one long story. I always liked Bebop more than I liked Trigun, but they both were quality. "Ballad for Angels" (correct me if this is the wrong name for the episode) always struck me as one of the best episodes. I used to watch it over and over just for the song in it. Something about it just puts me in such a calm mood.
I digress. Firefly never presented the moral ambiguity I saw in Bebop, but the basic subjects look similar on paper.
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