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Jill Carroll

POSTED BY: Zisker
UPDATED: Thursday, April 6, 2006 04:56
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Sunday, April 2, 2006 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by Zisker:
Are people so divided or jaded or cynic or what have you these days that we can't just find some small amount of good in the fact that someone had a happy (relative, of course) ending?


I'm sure we're all happy for her (We just can't resist a little friendly(!) tussle on the side).

Rowdy Chrisisall

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Tuesday, April 4, 2006 7:11 AM

With the way things went down with this journalist, to me it looked more like a well-devised publicity stunt over an actually terrorist capture/torture.

Almost like those people who wanted to be "Human Shields" right before OIF... the reality of what really goes on just does not play true to the message even in the news.

And like Causal, I've also got 10 years military experience to back this up. Hostage situations don't normally go this "nicely."

Good news for me is that I don't have to hear about her anymore, and that she is truly safe now.

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Tuesday, April 4, 2006 10:22 AM

Actually I think it played out pretty much as you'd expect and how previous kidnappings of female journalists have ended. Remember the 2 French girls and that Italian woman? In fact the only foreign woman we know has been taken and killed is Margret Hanson and she was actually taken by Al Qaeda, not the indiginous Iraqi types that grabbed Jill Carroll.

All these cases play out the same way. If you snatch a female journalist then the press corps from that country remain interested in a way they wouldn't be if this was a random male oil worker. In addition at the very least her media outlet will keep running the story while she is missing. Get the girl to do you a few video pieces and they are garenteed to be reported, because at least her paper/TV station will see fit to use it.

Later when interest subsides you cut her loose to show your devout Islamic credentials by not killing women prisoners, and look around for another.

Her reaction is interesting too because it reflects her culture. The French girls did their antiwar videos but never retracted them on their release because they played well back home. I can't imagine any American journalist who wanted to stay in that business putting out antiwar videos and then sticking by them once they were released.

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Thursday, April 6, 2006 4:56 AM

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Originally posted by Fletch2:
Actually I think it played out pretty much as you'd expect and how previous kidnappings of female journalists have ended. Remember the 2 French girls and that Italian woman? In fact the only foreign woman we know has been taken and killed is Margret Hanson and she was actually taken by Al Qaeda, not the indiginous Iraqi types that grabbed Jill Carroll.


I do remember video tapes of those 3 European journalists - their looks on their faces were much more of fear and they were pleading for their lives.

Not Jill Carroll.

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Our love for him now ain't hard to explain.
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