Star Wars III vs. Serenity

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UPDATED: Wednesday, April 5, 2006 14:22
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XEYRA

Monday, April 3, 2006 1:06 PM

I liked Star Wars III. I've always been a big fan of this universe, reading a lot of comics and novels, seeing the original movies countless times, and I liked the prequels, though not with the same enthusiasm and love of the first three movies (episodes 4, 5 and 6). Although I liked the prequels, I was not blind to its problems: the character development and dialogue was badly done and the CG were used abundantly -- too much so.

Serenity, on the other hand, like most everyone around here has stated, was a story with plot, character development and computer graphics that didn't interfere with the story, didn't steal away from the characters and indeed helped tell the story, not the other way around. It was one of my favourite sci-fi films ever and I've watched it again and again since getting the DVD. I love this universe, I love the characters, I love the ship, I love the dialogues (come on, who doesn't? Joss Whedon writes the wittiest dialogues ever!) and, without a doubt, love Serenity more than Episode III, even though it was my favourite of the prequels.

My two-cents.

Xeyra

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Wash: This landing is gonna get pretty interesting.
Mal: Define "interesting".
Wash: [deadpan] Oh God, oh God, we're all going to die?

CYBERSNARK

Monday, April 3, 2006 8:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by milford:
The dialogue between Anakin and Mace Windu in the hanger area, when Anakin is pouting about not being able to do whatever he is that he wants to do, is, and I'm using every method of of emphasis in my power here, THE WORST BIT OF DIALOGUE AND ACTING I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!

I wouldn't go that far.

The scene where he turns to the Dark Side (in the span of a second) is worse, IMHO. Bad dialogue coupled with a bad plot.

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RIVERTAMKICKSASS03

Monday, April 3, 2006 8:32 PM

I realy dont get why everyone always compares the two, Serenity and Star Wars are completly seperate. Serenity is fantastic but so is SW

As for all the comments about worst this and worst that, can anyone say Star Wars 1,2&3 are worse than basic instint 2, scary movie 4, commando, hard target (any vamn damn film) mortal kombat.

I hate people bitching about revenge of the sith. If you didn't like 1 and 2 why watch 3

AGIRLYMAN

Monday, April 3, 2006 9:31 PM

Episode III is a great movie, so is Serenity. I love both these movies, but Star Wars never moved me like "Firefly". Maybe it's because of all the cute "Fuzzy-wuzzies", Lucas tries to force down your throat.

P.S. Jar jar? Ewoks? No tanks.

AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?

Tee Hee

ZOID

Monday, April 3, 2006 11:11 PM

Greetings, fellow Browncoats:

Well.

I've said it before, but I'll say it again: Y'all are looking at the Star Wars prequels all wrong.

George Lucas owns Industrial Lights & Magic (ILM). He owns Lucas Arts (multi-platform game development). He owns THX (named after his first feature film, 1971's "THX 1138"; it's the industry standard for theatrical audio). He gets the lion's share of every Star Wars book or toy sold, every cereal endorsement deal.

The prequels were nothing more than a test-bed for ILM. They display the latest cutting-edge CGI, blue/green screen effects. Other film makers squeal, "Oooh! That's a bit of alright!" Next thing you know, you've got "War of the Worlds", "Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow", "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire", et cetera, ad infinitum. (For a complete listing of all 247 films: http://imdb.com/company/co0072491/)

The beauty of this, for Lucas, is that he risks nothing in those films, yet he still reaps a whirlwind of dosh. Film makers pay for ILM's services; if the film tanks, they don't get a refund for those services.

Next, consider the rabid Star Wars fans. Why are they so rabid? Because they've been brainwashed by the books and games; because they actually cut their teeth on Chewbacca's head fer Pete's sake! When they see one of the prequels, they're just so happy to see the Star Wars trademark scrolling prologue-against-a-starfield, that what happens after that is anticlimactic. In the case of some die-hard geeks, literally... And what happens immediately following the end of the scroller? Anybody? (Buehler?) Big freakin' CGI gut-punch, that's what!

That prologue scroller, to these from-birth fans, is like rolling up their sleeves and tying their belts around their biceps. 'Big freakin' CGI gut-punch' = heroin hitting the bloodstream. It's all about addiction, and George is the Grand Master Of All Pushers. Who cares if the highs are no longer as heavenly? Who cares if you regain consciousness in a puddle of your own excrement? You gotta have it...

How excellent is it, therefore, that Ewan McGregor -- who burst onto the scene in "Trainspotting" -- is the star of the prequels? (Sit on that suppository, for irony.)

And of course, it all sells games, and books, and toys, and Happy Meals, and 2-liter bottles of Pepsi, and meticulously hand-crafted costumery, and licensed replica weaponry, and...

Imagine yourself in George Lucas' life. As you sit in your throne room at Skywalker Ranch, meticulously grooming your Ewokian beard, 'A Thought' occurs to you: Yes, the books and games and toys and killer-for-hire CGI business is going well, but it's all starting to lose steam, 15 years down the road since RotJ closed theatrically. The books and video games have been keeping the interest growing, but it's become clear they need some help to reach their full potential. What to do? Why, make a new showcase for your fine products, of course!

I could go on (and on, and on...), but I think I should have painted a clear enough picture by now. Anyone who thought the Star Wars prequels were made for the fans -- for entertainment, for Art -- are wallowing in their addiction. They were made to sell more CGI contracts, and books, and games, and...

Personally, I can hardly wait until the Star Wars-based live-action television series airs. There's nothing more exciting than the prospect of a couple million fans mainlining C₂₁H₂₂N₂O₂, thinking its C₂₁H₂₃NO₅.

Clairvoyantly,

zoid

P.S.
Uhh... I preferred "Serenity" to "Revenge of the Shith". And I need another fix. And I'm sooo jealous of Star Wars geeks, cuz they got some great paraphernalia we can't get. All's I wants is a PC RPG! Is that too much to ask? Hell, I'll even run out and steal grandma's silverware to buy an XBox 360, if that's the only platform VU Games make it for!
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CHRISISALL

Monday, April 3, 2006 11:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:

The scene where he turns to the Dark Side (in the span of a second) is worse, IMHO. Bad dialogue coupled with a bad plot.

Yep.

NOOOooooo! Chrisisall

THEPISTONENGINE

Monday, April 3, 2006 11:42 PM

Zoid, was that really necessary? I mean, couldn't you have just said "rat poison" and "heroine"?

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Carry the Nuttin'

AZTECHROME

Tuesday, April 4, 2006 12:10 AM

Wow, what a choice!

CAKE OR DEATH?

Isn't that the real question here?

I mean, even the public at large rejected the new Star Wars movies. These are the same people that make things like XXX-2 into moneymaking machines, and are probably going to go see "3 Fast, 3 Furious", or whatever the hell they're going to call it. A wag of the finger at Pixar too. The number of bad CG movies that they spit out should be considered a war-crime.

Why bother to compare "Sith" with a good movie?

I'll take cake, you can have as much death as you want.

ZOID

Tuesday, April 4, 2006 12:31 AM

ThePistonEngine wrote:

Quote:
Zoid, was that really necessary? I mean, couldn't you have just said "rat poison" and "heroine"?

Ummm... Where's the fun in that?

Besides, I thought it was kinda interesting to note that both heroin and strychnine are composed of the same elements, in the same order; just subtract a hydrogen, add a nitrogen and subtract 3 oxygens, et voila! The addict reaches the finish line ahead of his peers!

Covalently,

zoid

P.S.
...In much the same way that the original Star Wars trilogy and the prequel trilogy have the same elements in the same order. Savez?
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

AZTECHROME

Tuesday, April 4, 2006 11:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
zoid wrote:

Besides, I thought it was kinda interesting to note that both heroin and strychnine are composed of the same elements, in the same order; just subtract a hydrogen, add a nitrogen and subtract 3 oxygens, et voila! The addict reaches the finish line ahead of his peers!

Covalently,

zoid

Uh, isn't all organic chemistry based upon groups composed out of those same elements?
Edit: ... along with carbon, obviously.

Counterintuitively,

-aztechrome

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