Star Wars III vs. Serenity
POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Wednesday, April 5, 2006 14:22
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IMHO, Revenge of the Sith was much more enjoyable than Serenity. However, Firefly has them BOTH beat.
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Wrong, matey. The only assumption I have about Americans is that they have a good reason for putting the steering wheel on the passenger's side.
90 minutes chucked to highlight the goal rate, compare with how ever many number of hours a Superbowl lasts, and to save anyone a trip to Google.
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I have to agree with you on a couple of levels there. While I did like Star Wars 3 (besides the dialogue), it has no replay value to it. All my friends, except for one (I call him the "smart one"), think that Star Wars is far better than Serenity on the reason that "it's Star Wars".
They all hate sci-fi except for Star Wars and have such a closed mind to anything besides hollywood blockbusters, it's pathetic. Serenity is FAR better than Star Wars and re-affirmed my faith in science fiction after my disappointment in the new Star Wars.
And trust me when I say this, my life revolved around Star Wars for 5 years of my life (grades 3 to 7), and now that I'm in university, I can firmly say I will be a Browncoat for life.
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I can tell you think without any qualms of conscience:
The dialogue between Anakin and Mace Windu in the hanger area, when Anakin is pouting about not being able to do whatever he is that he wants to do, is, and I'm using every method of of emphasis in my power here, THE WORST BIT OF DIALOGUE AND ACTING I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!
I've watched plenty of bad films in my life, Zadoz is the one that comes to mind right now, horrible movie about Sean Connery and sex, and there's tons of crappy junk out there. However, the dialgoue and acting in that movie were atrocious. To even have Serenity and Sith in the same sentence is only allowable by nature if you are using them in a state of antithesis.
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Definitely serenity, no contest, though I did enjoy episode 3, i thought it was the best of the prequels.
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Originally posted by Gixxer:
Wrong, matey. The only assumption I have about Americans is that they have a good reason for putting the steering wheel on the passenger's side.
Though provocative and inflammatory, that was really quite funny. Utterly an untrue implication, of course.
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Originally posted by Gixxer:
90 minutes chucked to highlight the goal rate, compare with how ever many number of hours a Superbowl lasts, and to save anyone a trip to Google.
That strike anyone as hypocritical? A superbowl is 60 minutes of gametime, or any football game for that matter. Yes, 57 goals in a game is quite large. I'd catagorize four goals a game as pretty high up there, myself. But your statement was still directed at us ignorant Americans, as you pointed out. (Ok, some I'm putting the word "ignorant" in your mouth. Breaking my own rules of debate.)
Premise 1: Americans drive on the right side of the road.
Premise 2: British drive on the opposite side of the road.
Premise 3: The opposite of right is wrong.
Conclusion: British drive on the wrong side of the road.
Anyways, when America wins the World Cup come June, we'll talk more about soccer. Some call me delusional. I call myself a Browncoat. Landon Donavon, will you be my Big Damn Hero?
(For another point of interest, this is entirely tongue-in-cheek. If you're really offended, just laugh at the next American killed in London for loooking the wrong way before crossing the street)
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On visual grounds SWIII pulls a ways ahead, but for only two reasons. First, George Lucas owns the company that did the special effects for the movie. What lucas asks for, he gets, and more than likely at a discount. Secondly,(and more important) SWIII had a budget around five times as large as the one for Serenity. This in turn allows for cg effects shots to be extended to an incredible length and detail, which Serenity, I am sorry to say, just cannot compete with.
However, in sheer storytelling, not to mention acting intensity in general, Whedon's creation pulls far ahead. The actors loved thier characters, it was obvious, and were able to get back into thier roles with the familiarity of putting on a leather coat one has worn for years. (I use this metaphor mainly beacause I know how this feels. Yes, I wore a brown coat before ever even hearing of this beautiful verse.) Further, while SWIII was simply tying up loose story ends and showing one man's rather whiny fall from grace, Serenity deals with the much more interesting ideal of the freedom to be who you are, and that a person's flaws and emotional passions, while maybe problimatic from time to time, are some of the things that make us induvidual humans in the first place, and should never be subject to change by those who think they know better. a story like Serenity's (on and off the movie) shows a verse where people with a stiff enough resolve can do anything, and that is the freedom embodied by the show, movie, cast, creator, and fans. This is why Serenity outdoes that visually rich, plot thin space opera Star Wars, and just about everything else I have seen on or off the silver screen.
Oh yeah, Serenity also has a much better sense of wit than SWIII, which keeps it from becoming overbearing.
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Yeah, big shock, I'd pick Serenity, too ;p
I agree with 20THCENTFOXHATER about the replay value bit. I've seen Serenity quite a number of times now and it's never come close to getting old. I think seeing Ep III the one time as a rental satisfied me for a long while ;p
Now, I grew up in the 80's, and with the exception of the original version of Episode IV, have seen all the original trilogy in theatres, including the reworked versions. (Was born in '79, so I sorta missed out on Ep. IV :) So I've been a big SW fan for a long time. (I used Chewbacca's head as a teething ring, fer cryin' out loud, okay?)
But my prob with eps 1-3 was that I liked them almost because I felt I should. Lucas' dialogue feels particularly stilted in these, and that can't help but affect the acting. Any director who makes Natalie Portman come off as a bad actress is obviously doing something wrong, IMHO. Plus, there just obviously wasn't any chemistry at all in that cast.
Serenity just happened to have scored on each of those flaws ;p Great dialogue that actually sounds natural coming from an actor's mouth. Which leads to stellar performances from a talented cast that obviously seem to be enjoying the work they're doing, with a palpable chemistry that can't help but shine through in the film.
For special effects, SW has to win, of course. But i like the more old-fashioned effects anyways. Too much CG turns me off. The reason I'm still more likely to watch the original versions of eps IV-VI, is I like the textural and 'real' quality it has. I think the best special effects are the ones where you don't realize, or don't think about them being special effects. If it draws you out of the experience and makes you go "hey, neat CGI!" then it's at a detriment to the movie. Serenity I rather liked 'cause they stayed away from blue screens, and visually my "oh wow" moments were due to a particularly inspired composition or camera angle.
Anyways, that's my two cents. (Or a buck and change, looking at the length of this post :)
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I liked Star Wars III because of its plot, not because of the writing, directing, or acting. For me, what's important is substance over style.
I didn't like Serenity as much because the plot wasn't great, and it seemed too rushed. Although it had GREAT writing, acting, and directing, it just didn't cut it for me.
Firefly had everything. ALL of it was done EXTREMELY well, therefore it is better IMHO than both Serenity and Star Wars III combined. Firefly had an excellent plot, and the writing, directing, and acting simply accentuated it. THAT is what makes Firefly superior, IMHO
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I really tried to like SW III. I thought, here we go, he had to do all that crap before for set up. Then what a whiny let down. Graphics were nice, but he has millions to just PLAY with. But the chemistry was just not there. I frequently say by the end of that movie I only feel bad for one person...Obi Wan. He has to deal with all that whiny teen angst Anakin and Padme screwed everyone over with. Everyone else just had such a bad time portraying much belivable feeling.
It was some of the worst screenplay known to cinema. Had these been stand alone with no ep 4-6 I firmly believe they would have flopped.
Serenity had everything I look for in a story. Only thing it didn't have was Lucas' budget. And that goes to prove money canot buy you talent.
Albeit a little rushed....serenity had it down pat. Actors who understood and loved their role, story, heart, and wit to boot.
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