Jill Carroll
POSTED BY: Zisker
UPDATED: Thursday, April 6, 2006 04:56
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So, hey, a happy ending for once. I thought that amid the usual cynicism and bad juju that goes on it was nice to hear that someone didn't die for a change and doesn't seem too worse off from the ordeal. Because to be honest, I thought that girl was toast.
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The real tragedy of this ordeal is that from the way she's been talking since her release, it seem like she has a case of Stockholm Syndrome.
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Originally posted by Skywalken:
The real tragedy of this ordeal is that from the way she's been talking since her release, it seem like she has a case of Stockholm Syndrome.
I apologize to Ms. Carroll. Apparently she was forced to make the statements praising her captors.
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She has released a statement:
I'm so happy to be free and am looking forward to spending a lot of time with my family. I want to express my deep appreciation to all the people who worked so long and hard for my release. I am humbled by the sympathy and support expressed by so many people during my kidnapping.
In the past few days, the U.S. military and officials have been extremely generous, and I am grateful for their help. Throughout this ordeal, many U.S. agencies have committed themselves to bringing me safely home.
My colleagues at The Christian Science Monitor have worked ceaselessly to secure my release, and worked with security consultants to do so. Many other news organizations, both inside and outside of Iraq, as well as many officials from Iraq and other countries, worked hard to bring about my freedom.
So many people around the world spoke out on my behalf.
Thank you, all of you.
During my last night of captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me I would be released if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and I wanted to go home alive. So I agreed.
Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not. The people who kidnapped me and murdered Alan Enwiya are criminals, at best. They robbed Alan of his life and devastated his family. They put me, my family and my friends _ all those around the world _ who have prayed so fervently for my release _ through a horrific experience. I was, and remain, deeply angry with the people who did this.
I also gave a TV interview to the Iraqi Islamic Party shortly after my release. The party had promised me the interview would never be broadcast or aired on television, and they broke their word. At any rate, fearing retribution from my captors, I did not speak freely. Out of fear I said I wasn't threatened. In fact, I was threatened many times.
Also, at least two false statements about me have been widely aired: One, that I refused to travel and cooperate with the U.S. military and two, that I refused to discuss my captivity with U.S. officials. Again, neither statement is true.
I want to be judged as a journalist, not as a hostage. I remain as committed as ever to fairness and accuracy _ to discovering the truth _ and so I will not engage in polemics. But let me be clear: I abhor all who kidnap and murder civilians, and my captors are clearly guilty of both crimes.
Now, I ask for the time to heal. This has been a taxing 12 weeks for me and for my family. Please allow us some quiet time alone, together.
_ Jill Carroll
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/3764467.html
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The US didn't do shit to release her. I guess rescuing hostages is just too much on top of invading a country and dropping bombs on it.
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Originally posted by Jonus:
The US didn't do shit to release her. I guess rescuing hostages is just too much on top of invading a country and dropping bombs on it.
Ah, another person who wants to lick Saddam Hussein's ass.
Jonus, you just have to accept that your lover is locked up and on trial for his atrocities. I'm sure you will eventually get to make love to him in hell.
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Originally posted by Skywalken:
Ah, another person who wants to lick Saddam Hussein's ass.
Jonus, you just have to accept that your lover is locked up and on trial for his atrocities. I'm sure you will eventually get to make love to him in hell.
Wow. I'm almost impressed, in a way. That has to be one of the nastiest attacks on a person I've seen in a while, and one that had nothing to to do with the target's post whatsoever. A comment on the role of the US military in Iraq (and in Carroll's rescue) followed up with a massive ad hominem calling Jonus a Saddam lover (and an ass-licking Saddam lover to boot).
Bet I wouldn't have to guess too hard as to which side of the 37% Bush approval rating you come down on.
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Quote:Jonus doesn't believe the U.S. has been handling the war or related situations well, how does that make someone a Saddam-lover?
Originally posted by Skywalken:
Ah, another person who wants to lick Saddam Hussein's
Do you kiss Bush's bottom because you think we did a bang-up (pun intended) job in Iraq?
Er, strike that question...
Chrisisall
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Well, I think that the comment that the U.S. didn't do anything to help Miss Carroll's release was totally inappropriate, myself. Some folks just like dumping on the U.S. And while I believe people should be able to think and say what they like, I wonder how many ways these people who loathe the U.S. benefit from this country in one way or the other.
Also, the U.S. couldn't rescue someone whose whereabouts were unknown. If we can't find any of the hundreds of missing persons in our own country, how're we supposed to find a single person hidden in another country?
Some people just like to badmouth the U.S. at any opportunity -- and even invent opportunites when one doesn't conveniently lend itself to the situation.
So, I'm not going to shed any tears over a somewhat hostile reaction to a person who loathes this country by someone who obviously appreciates what we have here. 
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Originally posted by Jonus:
The US didn't do shit to release her. I guess rescuing hostages is just too much on top of invading a country and dropping bombs on it.
Because it is just so incredibly easy to find the one house in all of Iraq where they're keeping the kidnapped journalist. Wait--and infiltrate the network that took her (if you can figure out which one it was). Or at least develop a contact (if you can find someone who knows who's got her and where they're keeping her AND is willing to risk their own neck talking to U.S. forces). Oh yeah, and put together an operation to grab her before the bastards move her again (what--you thought they'd be stupid enough to keep her in one place?). Oh, also, and make sure that your ass isn't getting blown off while you're spending time developing intel for this hostage rescue operation. Oh yeah, I forgot about the need to completely redirect intel collection efforts in order to work up all the necessary intel to perform all these operations. Not to mention that whatever SOF unit is tasked with the HR operation has to get clearance from whatever regular military unit actually owns the turf that the hostage is being held in (during which time they could move her).
What--you thought that you could just say, "Let's go get her, gang!", then hop in the Mystery Machine and rescue the poor thing? Or perhaps you believe that they just didn't want to? Or just maybe you don't know jack shit about Special Operations, the U.S. military operations in general, our involvement in Iraq (not the crap you see on CNN, mind you, I'm talking first-hand experience), the workings of the intelligence cycle and its role in Special Operations mission planning, or multi-service mission deconfliction. Because if you had any experience in these things, you would know how difficult it is to get the stars to align just right to enable an actual hostage rescue. If the enemy force is even half awake, he can hide his hostage--it isn't that hard.
Plus, unless you have sources that you haven't disclosed, you can't make the claim that the U.S. did nothing to release her. If you mean that the U.S. didn't negotiate for her release, you're right, and that's a very good thing--legitimizing terrorism by negotiation guarantees more terrorism. But if by nothing you mean that there were no attempts to rescue--no effort at all expended--well, that's just something we'll never know. Because the units that are involved with this sort of operation don't exactly advertise. Hell, they don't even exist, according to the U.S. government. So I seriously doubt there'll ever be a press release. Oh, yeah, plus the concept of Operations Securtiy precludes disclosing details of friendly operations to protect U.S./Allied forces from enemy intel collection and subsequent targeting. Guess we'll have to add that to the list of things you know nothing about.
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