'It's in your nature to destroy yourselves.'
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 4, 2006 00:00
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You are missing one thing here, almost everything is done with an interest but seldom it is for the good of humanity or at least group of people. Our entire political system works in some extent just because they need votes so it's a slow progress for the good of the people. Of course there are exceptions and are person who dedicate for the "good".
I don't know how the 20's will look like but I have a scenario how things will happen:
1. The world will progress slowly until...
2. The tech is sufficiently advanced to monitor every person( Many movies picture it dont't need to explain).
3. Initially the tech is mostly used for good things( stop crime etc. / spying for info, etc.)
4. At one point a person/corporation/group of people/A.I.(?) will be "bad" enought to use these ultimate control of everyone for it's own interest.
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Originally posted by nuclearday:
Also, I may be wrong, but I remember hearing somewhere that the... (Mayan?) calender ends in the year 2020, which is supposed to be rather important as it's like the most accurate calender ever or something. I think we're supposed to enter the next cycle or something like that.
The Mayan calendar worked on cycles of destruction and rebirth.
The Mayan calendar estimates a year as 365.242036 days, the Gregorian calendar as 365.2425 days, meaning the Mayan calendar is slightly more accurate, though this may be a coincidence for a number of reasons, rather than design.
The Mayan's used three calendars, and it is the long count calendar, which counts the days much like our own which you're talking about. The Mayan long count calendar ends on December 21st 2012 (had to look that up). I'm not sure that really signifies the end of the world:
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The end of the 13th baktun is conjectured to have been of great significance to the Maya, but does not mark the end of the world. According to the Popol Vuh, a sacred book of the Maya, we are living in the fourth world. The Popol Vuh describes the first three creations that the gods failed in making and the creation of the successful fourth world where men were placed. The Maya believed that the fourth world would end in catastrophe and the fifth and final world would be created that would signal the end of mankind.
The last creation ended on a long count of 13.0.0.0.0. Another 13.0.0.0.0 will occur on December 21, 2012, and it has been discussed in many New Age articles and books that this will be the end of this creation or something else entirely. However, the Maya abbreviated their long counts to just the last five vigesimal places. There were an infinitely larger number of units that were usually not shown. When the larger units were shown (notably on a monument from Coba), the end of the last creation is expressed as 13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.13.0.0.0.0, where the units are obviously supposed to be 13s in all larger places. In this age we are only approaching 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.13.0.0.0.0, and the larger places are nowhere near the 13s that would match the end of the last creation. (Schele and Friedel 1990: 430)
This is confirmed by a date from Palenque, which projects forward in time to 1.0.0.0.0.0, which will occur on 13 October, 4772. The Classic Period Maya obviously did not believe that the end of this age would occur in 2012. According to the Maya, there will be a baktun ending in 2012, a significant event being the end of a 13th 400 year period, but not the end of the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_calendar
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No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.
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This is why I've been saying we've got to do something about the government(s). They'll be the death of us all if we don't do something.
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Monolithic corporate monopolies worry me more.
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Quote:Is not government just the long arm of the above?
Originally posted by citizen:
Monolithic corporate monopolies worry me more.
Chrisisall
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Well in a capitalist society that's exactly what it ends up being, corporations and monied individuals buy, erm I mean donate to, politicians and parties that happen to give them preferential treatment, erm best serve their interests, erm err serve the people best yeah.
Ask a capitalist and they'll tell you what it's all about though, you see business can't be held responsible; it'll be the saviour of us all.
You see by 1% of the population hording 90% of the worlds wealth capitalist magic makes everyone better off by a trickling effect which makes the wealth traverse downwards. This happens by the top 1% making more money than they spend you see.
Okay at the moment the gap between rich and poor is increasing, but that's because of Socialists, just like gremlins they are, in the system. They gum up the works with their evil socialist bodysnatching Gremlin mind control powers.
I tell ya, if it weren't for socialists there'd be no third world! Everyone would be rich and prosperous!
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Quote:Ain't gonna get into labels. I'll just rephrase: I tell ya, if it weren't for GREED there'd be no third world! Everyone would HAVE ENOUGH!
Originally posted by citizen:
I tell ya, if it weren't for socialists there'd be no third world! Everyone would be rich and prosperous!
Quasi-socialist conservative bored rich liberal white guy Chrisisall
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You've not been reading the manifesto Chris.
Greed == Good. Top 1% == Greedy, they horde the lot and that leaks down to the lower levels through capitalist magic.
Greed will save us all 
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Quote:Sarcasm????
Originally posted by citizen:
Greed == Good. Top 1% == Greedy, they horde the lot and that leaks down to the lower levels through capitalist magic.
Greed will save us all
Why...YOU'RE A SOCIALIST!!!!!
I don't see Bruce Wayne giving away all his wealth to the third world!!!!!
Holy money! Chrisisall
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Hey, I ain’t no Socialist!
I'm a realist.
Socialism in the real world ends with oppressive governments.
Capitalism ends with Governments that are run by the rich for their own benefit. Fuck the little guy! It's not like they're real people, they deserve to die!
It's feudalism for the digital age baby.
But you put the two together 50/50...
And I could kick Bruce Wayne’s arse.
CitizenDoesn'tNeed no girly armour, hooah!
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